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Old 08-31-2009, 03:54 PM   #46
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Over here, a hands-free phone is considered legal and acceptable. I don't see much difference between that and talking to someone in the car. As to how safe or unsafe that is I suspect that rather depends on the individual. Some people can multitask well and have their attention on the road and a conversation at the same time. Others not so much. I am pretty sure, if I were a driver, I would want any passengers in the car to shut the fuck up whilst i was driving, or at the very least not expect me to join in. I wuold want all of my attention on the road. My brother, on the other hand, can happily carry on two separate conversations and still have a greater awareness of the road than I could ever manage:P Not to mention lightning fast reactions.
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:38 PM   #47
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:30 PM   #48
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How is talking on your handsfree any different to having a conversation with a passenger ? Arguing with kids in the back seat?

I don't look down when I txt, I don't txt in city traffic...well I do at red lights.

Paranoid over cautious reactive drivers are just as dangerous, someone who's watching for that car to swerve, so when a car wanders off line a little, they've already decided that person is going to kill them and have jammed the breaks on or swerved themselves.

Sure, I don't think txting n driving is safe, but there's a whole lot of other dangers out there.
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:56 PM   #49
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Damn skippy Ducks. Next thing these whiny people will want to outlaw roadhead saying it's unsafe and all that other crap. roadhead is a god given right that i refuse to give up.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:06 PM   #50
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The difference between talking on a hands-free and talking to your passenger is that, according to a study I saw about a year ago, the passenger is aware that you are driving and will pause in conversation when they see you are doing a difficult move (say, getting across three lanes of traffic) and need your full concentration.

However, I also have read that on average women are better at multi-tasking then men. The posters here who say they do multiple tasks while driving are women. Maybe they are more able to deal with these situations than we others would be. But even so, I Do Not Approve. [shakes head sternly].
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:11 PM   #51
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TG you live a long, long way from me. No offence or anything, but if you are so tired that you have to concentrate on keeping your eyes open, not on what they are seeing, you are dangerous. pull over and rest until you're ready to drive. Get up earlier, Go to bed earlier. get sleeping pills, whatever
Even though I specifically don't live near you, there are probably plenty of drivers that do the same in your area.
Doing something, whether it be eat or drink (tea, not booze of course) helps me be a little more awake and aware. Most mornings I try to have a little something with me. One of the common side effects of sleeping pills: drowsiness the next day. So yeah, those are a worse idea. I take tylanol or advil PM on occasion because they don't linger, but the OTC and prescription ones do. If I go to bed too early I toss around and don't get as deep of sleep as when I just wait until I'm tired.

Shaw- the kid who hit you...wasn't he turning at the same time? I don't do that, even if I want to I can't, I have to change gears. I very rarely text when I drive, I never carry on a conversation and its never when in traffic. I am being honest by sayin I do text, but I'm not any worse than what the majority of other drivers are doin. We all have a bit of distraction while on the road, even if its a bit of daydreamin' cuz we are doin something else. Texting is probably a lot safer than my tiredness in the AM .
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:28 PM   #52
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yup I know they're around here too. And they probably say the same things. The excuses sound fine until you do nod off. If you feel sleepy at the wheel, just don't drive. I don't care if you lose your job, that's not as important as my kid's life. kthxbai.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:40 PM   #53
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....then stay off the road at 5AM. I do every damn thing I can to stay awake. I can't live without my job.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:49 PM   #54
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However, I also have read that on average women are better at multi-tasking then men.
I've always heard that too, Zen. But see this about multi-tasking.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:50 PM   #55
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Sure, I don't think txting n driving is safe, but there's a whole lot of other dangers out there.
Yes. There are.


So why would you want to add to them?
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:58 PM   #56
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FYI -

"If a fatal accident is caused by the driver's unconsciousness as a result of a medical condition, such as an epileptic seizure, or by falling asleep at the wheel, criminal liability for involuntary manslaughter can be imposed. That is so because of the recklessness or culpable negligence of operating an automobile while in such a condition."
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:38 PM   #57
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Some people can text and drive attentively just fine. Some people can drive at 90 in residential zones just fine.

Unfortunately, enough can't do one or both of these that we need legislation. Speeding legislation is old -but is still hotly contested.

but driving drunk, stoned or sleepy -you have to be stupid to think any of those are OK -they're not a matter of multitasking -they're a matter of fail-to-task-at-all. if you have to drive at 5am to get to work, then adjust your system so 4am is a good wake-up time. or get another job. or die. Bur don't do the latter as you kill my children because you "closed your eyes for a moment" and ran through the red light mmkay?
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:43 PM   #58
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OK, wait, let me change the scenario... in the back of my car are 2 puppies, 3 old dogs, 6 kittens and a hamster which were abused, have been nursed back to health and i'm transporting them to their new loving homes.....

...still think it's ok to risk falling alseep and frying them? Ii can find recipes if so.....
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:49 PM   #59
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Some people can text and drive attentively just fine. Some people can drive at 90 in residential zones just fine.

Unfortunately, enough can't do one or both of these that we need legislation. Speeding legislation is old -but is still hotly contested.

but driving drunk, stoned or sleepy -you have to be stupid to think any of those are OK -they're not a matter of multitasking -they're a matter of fail-to-task-at-all. if you have to drive at 5am to get to work, then adjust your system so 4am is a good wake-up time. or get another job. or die. Bur don't do the latter as you kill my children because you "closed your eyes for a moment" and ran through the red light mmkay?
I strictly do not close my eyes for a moment (well besides natural blinking). I tell myself I can, I lie to myself to bargain with myself to keep 'em open. I never close my eyes for that moment! I have been in the car with my mom when she feel asleep, I know how easy it is to do, so I don't "rest" my eyes, ever, no matter how badly I want to.
I have been workin to get myself adjusted to an earlier time, but its not that easy, it takes time.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:02 PM   #60
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right, but while you're thinking about that, you're not thinking about what the other (texting) arsehles on the road are doing.

I know, I've done it myself on long roadtrips. My rule is, the minute I think about the need to keep my eyes open, wake beest up to keep me awake until we find the next exit with a motel. and if it's more than 10 minutes, we pull over and he drives.

and we're usually in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night on a straight road. Driving sleepy is a stupidly dangerous thing to do.
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