bac

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The OT sure does suck, but then, I thought BACs put more importance into the NT. The NT sure does deny a lot of the fire and brimstone crap with a newfound attitude of tolerance and kindness.

A Softer Gentler Book righttttttttttttttttttttt

Child Beating.

"He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him takes care to chastise him" (Proverbs 13:24 NAB)

"Chastise your son, for in this there is hope, but do not desire his death. The man of violent temper pays the penalty; even if you rescue him, you will have to do it again." (Proverbs 19:18-19)

Baby Bashing.

"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." Psalms 137:9

Become a Eunuch for God.

For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12)

God Makes Wicked People.

The Lord has made everything for his own ends, even the wicked for the evil day. (Proverbs 16:4 )

A Ravenous Appetite is Bad.

And put a knife to your throat if you have a ravenous appetite. (Proverbs 23:2)

The Mouth of an Adulteress.

The mouth of an adulteress is a deep pit; he with whom the Lord is angry will fall into it. (Proverbs 22:14)

The Prince of Peace?

(Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36)

Slaves Must Respect Their Masters.

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2)

Women Are Subordinate to Men.

Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15)

Shut Up Women!

As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35)

Hate Your Family.

(Jesus Speaking) If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he can not be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)

The Fiery Furnace.

The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will collect out of his kingdom all who cause others to sin and all evildoers. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth. (Matthew 13:41-42)

There is soooo much more, but I believe I made my point with these tid-bits.


In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by dov

In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.[/b]

So there, dov, you getting all the answers in life you wanted out of The Cellar? All your spiritual questions answered and all that jazz? Did you come here to have your "yes or no" question answered or simply to permit your flailing rants to be broadcast to the world?

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Did you come here to have your "yes or no" question answered

I knew the answer before I asked it. It was confirmed.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by dov

I knew the answer before I asked it. It was confirmed.

Right. I'm sure your generous contribution to the greater world of debate has been noted, somewhere.

This thread seems to be more about a spiritual masturbation session on your part than anything else. Any indication otherwise is rendered null, since your side of the discussion is easily replaced by another source of static text.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by dov

There is soooo much more, but I believe I made my point with these tid-bits.

In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.

That's surely true, but the overall NT message -- not contradicted by your examples -- does not contain the savagery and war of the OT. People were pretty much instructed to be cool, as opposed to the OT where they were often instructed to decimate entire enemy populations with the assistance of God.

You sought to make your own point, not to contradict mine, and so you failed to contradict mine and it stands -- y'see? If you want to disprove my point, you have to address it, you see?

Originally Posted by Undertoad

That's surely true, but the overall NT message -- not contradicted by your examples -- does not contain the savagery and war of the OT. People were pretty much instructed to be cool, as opposed to the OT where they were often instructed to decimate entire enemy populations with the assistance of God.

That makes my brimstone bigger than your brimstone. nanananana.

[keryx]

Originally posted by dov:There is soooo much more, but I believe I made my point with these tid-bits.


In case you missed my point, all those books are full of shit.[/quote]


Similar tidbits can be found in the OT. By your own reasoning that also makes the OT books also full of shit, right?

I'm just following the logical bouncing ball.

And in case it wasn't deduced from my previous post, I do emphatically deny there is a plan to herd and destroy the Jewish people. End of statement.

Many fools have tried to predict the future from interpreting the Bible. The future cannot be known.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Did you come here to have your "yes or no" question answered or simply to permit your flailing rants to be broadcast to the world?

Originally Posted by dov

I knew the answer before I asked it. It was confirmed.

Kitsune also knew the answer to his question, and by evading it you confirmed it.

My question confirmed that no bac will ever reveal he or she would do their best to assist in the herding 13 million Jews into Israel and then assist in anyway possible in the genocide of at least two thirds of the Jews, to bring forth the second coming, period. The rest of this thread is gift-wrapping. Bacs will not deny it and they will not admit it. I take it very seriously, life or death for family, community and myself, in fact. If you like to play ego head games, and impotent macho put downs, enjoy. I got what I came for, again, and again and again.

Spin spin spin away.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by dov

My question confirmed that no bac will ever reveal he or she would do their best to assist in the herding 13 million Jews into Israel and then assist in anyway possible in the genocide of at least two thirds of the Jews, to bring forth the second coming, period.

First, I'll note I'm not a "bac" or anything even remotely close to it. 13 million Jews? Genocide? I don't even know what the hell you're talking about, nor do I really care. But...

Originally Posted by dov

The rest of this thread is gift-wrapping.

...put the bows, scotch tape, glittery paper, and name cards back in the junk drawer. All we've seen are empty boxes wrapped in paper-thin pages from a copy a of KJV. You're simply throwing quotes around for no damn reason and you've done everything in your power to bring about as little discussion as possible. You believe in this so strongly? Feel so cocnerned for the safety of your family? None of us would honestly have any idea, as you've done a very poor job of conveying any of it, so far. No argument, no facts, no opinions, no structure.

Originally Posted by dov

If you like to play ego head games, and impotent macho put downs, enjoy.

...because so far, this is aboslutely all you've accomplished.

Originally Posted by dov

I got what I came for, again, and again and again.

Spin spin spin away.

Enjoy your gift wrapping of this thread. You have a shining career at the mall concierge desk come November.

Originally Posted by Kitsune

13 million Jews? Genocide? I don't even know what the hell you're talking about, nor do I really care.

Of course, I am not surpriced.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by dov

Of course, I am not surpriced.

I am not "surpriced" at your lack of reply. Before you continue shouting through your paper megaphone, I urge you to do a little reading.

[Tonchi]

Originally Posted by dov

My question confirmed that no bac will ever reveal he or she would do their best to assist in the herding 13 million Jews into Israel and then assist in anyway possible in the genocide of at least two thirds of the Jews, to bring forth the second coming, period.

I asked my bac neighbor if she knew anything about this plan you are privy too and it was definitely news to her. However, she will pray for your soul

[xoxoxoBruce]

The question is, WHO TOLD DOV?

[mrnoodle]

Originally Posted by dov

My question confirmed that no bac will ever reveal he or she would do their best to assist in the herding 13 million Jews into Israel and then assist in anyway possible in the genocide of at least two thirds of the Jews, to bring forth the second coming, period. The rest of this thread is gift-wrapping. Bacs will not deny it and they will not admit it. I take it very seriously, life or death for family, community and myself, in fact. If you like to play ego head games, and impotent macho put downs, enjoy. I got what I came for, again, and again and again.

Spin spin spin away.

Originally Posted by Galatians 3:28

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Originally Posted by Romans 3 -- partial

What shall we conclude then? Are we (Jews -- mrnoodle)any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."
"Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit."
"The poison of vipers is on their lips."
"Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
"Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways,
and the way of peace they do not know."
"There is no fear of God before their eyes."
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.

But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

I don't know what all this is about herding Jews (it's easy, just open a thrift shop [/rimshot]), but I've never heard of it until now. I even attend the top-secret Christian meetings where we plot world domination.

Perhaps you're referring to the fact that every time Israel turns its back on God, he does something to get its attention again. No one is looking forward to the next occurrence, believe me.