Congress has lost its mind... - Page 41

glatt · 08-03-2011, 09:36 AM

So they did it. They reached a debt limit agreement. They slashed the budget. And now they can smile and go off on vacation with a sense of accomplishment. Job well done, right?

We won't mention that they left the partial FAA shutdown in effect, and as a result, it will cost the government about a billion dollars in uncollected airline ticket taxes during their month long vacation.

Have a great vacation!

Happy Monkey · 08-03-2011, 11:01 AM

Plus, the dreaded "uncertainty" that is causing the "job creators" to not create jobs has been extended to the end of the year, for "super congress" to deal with.

BigV · 08-03-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Plus, the dreaded "uncertainty" that is causing the "job creators" to not create jobs has been extended to the end of the year, for "super congress" to deal with.

Uncertainty? What a fucking canard. So subjective, so omnipresent, so nebulous. There will always be uncertainty, yet, somehow, we manage to have an economy. The real borrowing cost has been functionally zero for over two years, yet the growth hasn't resulted from the that certainty. And if uncertainty is bad for business, and if the pols have the best interest of business growth in mind, how then can they justify CREATING THE VERY CONDITION OF UNCERTAINTY THEY CLAIM IS THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO MORE GROWTH AND MORE JOBS?

Of course they can't. They can't. Facts and logic don't fucking matter anymore. I can't compete, I can't function in a make it up as you go along world like this.

DanaC · 08-03-2011, 11:06 AM

The thing is, and I am well aware I am a little lost in the field of economics, but haven't most western economists been suggesting that severe spending cuts at this stage may retard recovery?

The IMF has argued that the cuts over in Britain may be too great and may be rolling out too fast, and are advising our government to keep a close eye on the situation in case the cuts damage recovery.

BigV · 08-03-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

The thing is, and I am well aware I am a little lost in the field of economics, but haven't most western economists been suggesting that severe spending cuts at this stage may retard recovery?

--snip

yeah? so?

DanaC · 08-03-2011, 11:38 AM

Good point.

BigV · 08-03-2011, 11:50 AM

Permit Keith Olbermann to restate my thoughts:

I need a transcript of this. I want to print it up, like a Desiderata of furious disgust at the actions of our elected officials. Public servants? PTUI! Turn the volume UP.

Spexxvet · 08-03-2011, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

Permit Keith Olbermann to restate my thoughts:

I need a transcript of this. I want to print it up, like a Desiderata of furious disgust at the actions of our elected officials. Public servants? PTUI! Turn the volume UP.

Hear hear

classicman · 08-03-2011, 01:32 PM

I saw that this morning as well. First time I think I ever agreed with him about anything.

@glatt - Looks like Obama is gonna take care of the FAA situation himself.

Stormieweather · 08-03-2011, 02:48 PM

If it were up to me, all the FAA employees would be OFF the job until this was resolved. When air travel grinds to a halt, congress will get it's ass back to Washington to resolve it, guaranteed.

TheMercenary · 08-05-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather

If it were up to me, all the FAA employees would be OFF the job until this was resolved. When air travel grinds to a halt, congress will get it's ass back to Washington to resolve it, guaranteed.

I would have to agree. It would change behavior much more quickly.

BigV · 08-03-2011, 04:00 PM

well, stormie, what makes you think the air traffic controllers would be less noble and altruistic than the safety inspectors? They seem to have put dedication to principle above loyalty to tribe by performing their jobs without pay. That is noble dedication.

Spexxvet · 08-03-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

well, stormie, what makes you think the air traffic controllers would be less noble and altruistic than the safety inspectors? They seem to have put dedication to principle above loyalty to tribe by performing their jobs without pay. That is noble dedication.

I think controllers are still getting paid.

classicman · 08-03-2011, 04:21 PM

Aren't they the ones that aren't allowed to strike?

BigV · 08-03-2011, 06:03 PM

controllers are still getting paid, they're considered essential workers. my question was more along the line of "if all were furloughed, why wouldn't the controllers be as dedicated to their jobs as the safety inspectors who are still doing their work, but without pay.

08-03-2011, 11:01 AM	#2
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Plus, the dreaded "uncertainty" that is causing the "job creators" to not create jobs has been extended to the end of the year, for "super congress" to deal with. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-03-2011, 11:50 AM	#7
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Permit Keith Olbermann to restate my thoughts: I need a transcript of this. I want to print it up, like a Desiderata of furious disgust at the actions of our elected officials. Public servants? PTUI! Turn the volume UP. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-03-2011, 01:32 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I saw that this morning as well. First time I think I ever agreed with him about anything. @glatt - Looks like Obama is gonna take care of the FAA situation himself. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-03-2011, 02:48 PM	#10
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	If it were up to me, all the FAA employees would be OFF the job until this was resolved. When air travel grinds to a halt, congress will get it's ass back to Washington to resolve it, guaranteed. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

08-03-2011, 04:00 PM	#12
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	well, stormie, what makes you think the air traffic controllers would be less noble and altruistic than the safety inspectors? They seem to have put dedication to principle above loyalty to tribe by performing their jobs without pay. That is noble dedication. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-03-2011, 09:36 AM	#1
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	So they did it. They reached a debt limit agreement. They slashed the budget. And now they can smile and go off on vacation with a sense of accomplishment. Job well done, right? We won't mention that they left the partial FAA shutdown in effect, and as a result, it will cost the government about a billion dollars in uncollected airline ticket taxes during their month long vacation. Have a great vacation!

08-03-2011, 04:21 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Aren't they the ones that aren't allowed to strike? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-03-2011, 06:03 PM	#15
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	controllers are still getting paid, they're considered essential workers. my question was more along the line of "if all were furloughed, why wouldn't the controllers be as dedicated to their jobs as the safety inspectors who are still doing their work, but without pay. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

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