Do You Own a Gun?

No it's not... it's a stupid question.
Are your door locks a legal question?
"Oh my, the neighbors may want to come over and sleep in our bed while we are not looking. How rude of us to impede their progress!"
Welcome to dufus world, come right in, but first you must pass a test, stick this pin in your eye.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

No it's not... it's a stupid question.
Are your door locks a legal question?
"Oh my, the neighbors may want to come over and sleep in our bed while we are not looking. How rude of us to impede their progress!"
Welcome to dufus world, come right in, but first you must pass a test, stick this pin in your eye.

Now did you insult me?

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Now did you insult me?

Not you... just what you said.
The difference is a real problem in here for some.
We all say silly things that we don't think about and get called on them creatively. There is nothing wrong with some fun... I was having fun with you. I like you.
If I did not, I would not respond to you at all.
Humor, it's what's for dinner.
BTW, it was more directed at the question than your answer, but take it however you like.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Not you... just what you said.
The difference is a real problem in here for some.
We all say silly things that we don't think about and get called on them creatively. There is nothing wrong with some fun... I was having fun with you. I like you.
If I did not, I would not respond to you at all.
Humor, it's what's for dinner.
BTW, it was more directed at the question than your answer, but take it however you like.

Do me a favor - give me a smilie when you're joking. At least in this thread.

[Aliantha]

Maybe they have a right to walk where ever they like, but it's also your right to stop them.

That's where rights get tricky within society and where other philosophers come into the picture.

See: The Harm Principle (as an example)

[Aliantha]

Someone else had some pretty groovy property laws too. I'll have to look that one up. For now though, I have to go to work.

Sure, though the core of the comment was not a joke.
I do think the idea of there being any question of any nation having a right to protect their border or even setting, and/or, enforcing their immigration protocols is ridiculous.
You really could not tell that was not a joke?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Sure, though the core of the comment was not a joke.
I do think the idea of there being any question of any nation having a right to protect their border or even setting, and/or, enforcing their immigration protocols is ridiculous.
You really could not tell that was not a joke?

No. There's been too much ridiculing in this thread.

There is a conflict between immigration laws and "innate, tangible, inalienable rights". I'm interested in how Bruce and Radar resolve the conflict.

If you are not a legal member of nation, that nation's rights do not apply to you.
Pretty easy... you have the right to legally immigrate or leave.
I was not ridiculing you, just your statement... there is a difference.
We need to end this thread-jack.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

If you are not a legal member of nation, that nation's rights do not apply to you.
Pretty easy... you have the right to legally immigrate or leave.
I was not ridiculing you, just your statement... there is a difference.
We need to end this thread-jack.

I agree with you about immigration. HM is right - this is no thread jack, Radar and Bruce need to respond.

[Happy Monkey]

But Radar's point is that rights don't come from nations; they are innate to humanity.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

But Radar's point is that rights don't come from nations; they are innate to humanity.

That's right, countries can only limit or curtail your rights.

[piercehawkeye45]

This thread was jacked at page 5. All hope is lost for it.

[lumberjim]

yeah. rights are rights....the violation of them does not destroy them, it just....violates them.