Hotels Get Smart, Remove Bibles

Nope, I don't do that, it is rude, you are quite correct.

[Aliantha]

pros·e·ly·tize (prŏs'ə-lĭ-tīz') Pronunciation Key
v. pros·e·ly·tized, pros·e·ly·tiz·ing, pros·e·ly·tiz·es

v. intr.

To induce someone to convert to one's own religious faith.
To induce someone to join one's own political party or to espouse one's doctrine.

There seems to be a bit of this happening here.

[monster]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

As long as you feel the same say about LaVey's Satanic Bible.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest as long as I'm not paying for it or required to read it.

[monster]

So, the thread title is "Hotels get smart...."

What is smart about it, exactly? Were they losing business because of the bibles in the rooms? The feedback suggests they may lose business if they refuse to put bibles in the rooms. So how is it smart?

And the bible can be a pretty good read -it's just a bunch of stories and a little poetry. It has no more brainwashing properties than the complete works of Shakespeare. The fact that some people choose to believe in the god portrayed in the stories is irrelevant.

[Aliantha]

Hey now that looks like a philosophical argument to me monster! Get thee to the right forum wench!

[Jaydaan]

On the little fridges comment, I work for a hotel and in the past year we have had 9 out of our 16 fridge, stolen. They just bought another 6, so here's hoping they can glue them in or something. If they can't be bolted down, chances are someone WILL take it. As for bibles in the rooms, I can't remember if they took them out or not... I will have to ask someone in housekeeping tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

There seems to be a bit of this happening here.

An example.

[Aliantha]

Everyone is trying to convert everyone else to their way of thinking from what I can see.

Hmmm... one way at looking at a discussion. I don't see it as an active objective that way, but a valid argument if made.

[Aliantha]

I just think that we all try to influence people whether we want to admit it or not.

If we weren't trying to influence people's thinking, we wouldn't bother having discussions.

Some have them for the sake of having interesting conversations and to expose themselves to different thoughts.
Not everyone is egocentric to the point to need others to think like they do to feel validated.

[Aliantha]

I don't think it's about validation. If I have a discussion with someone (let's use this one as an example) one or the other of us, or perhaps both, will be influenced by it in that we will/might take something from the discussion which affects what/how we think. Just the simple fact of reading the text changes what you think because there are messages going to your brain that would not have been there otherwise.

True, but the purpose for all is not to make others think like they do.
It's just a conversation.
Intelligent people don't take them as personally as some freaks do.
There is no rational reason to... they are just ideas and nothing more. If you don't agree with them or like them then don't adopt them, its simple.
I have family that are white supremacists, I talk with them, casually... no big deal. I don't agree with them, but I don't have to get my panties in a wad because they are saying something outrageous to someone with my "morals" or "ideals".
I just don't agree and that is all.
Why someone would choose to make more out of a statement they don't agree with still completely baffles me. It is illogical and serves NO purpose other than self-harm.

[Aliantha]

Maybe not to make others think 'like they do' but definitely to get them to think full stop. That is to say, maybe you don't necessarily hope or even want people to think your way, but you certainly want to create understanding. That's the purpose of discussion...isn't it? So if the discussion is successful, you might judge that by both parties recognising the others argument and identifying the aspects of both which preclude similar thought. This then leads to different ways of viewing the subject and in fact means that both have influenced the other.

want to create understanding

Sometimes, sometimes I just want interesting, scholarly, thoughtful banter, selfishly perhaps, but true.
If they are not thinking but I am, at that point, is fine with me.
Either way, it was choice on their part and I have made them think nothing. If someone changes their view on something it is because they have chosen to adopt a new POV. No one can force you to think something through casual conversation.