Stimulus 2 - Page 5

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Well, name me a single politician who doesn't share all these characteristics - from either side of the aisle. And your rants will sound less shrill if you use the correct numbers. 800 billion is almost twice 450 billion. Neither of which sums is going to bring the US down.

Plus, what's all this garbage about cliques and name calling? People get so down on Politics because everyone here is perceived as being mean. So then people post here for no other reason except to call each other names? Maybe we should have a forum just devoted to bratty behavior.

Can I be part of your clique, Classic? You know - confusion to our enemies and all that?

The point is that spending us into further debt is NOT the solution. You can't continue to run up the credit cards! These Damm fools obviously have not gotten the message, hopefully they will get it in the next election....

Aliantha · 09-08-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

God I wish we could do that....

In some ways it can be good, but it can leave the public feeling a bit ripped off. After all, they didn't really vote for the person who overthrew the leader.

Pico and ME · 09-08-2011, 09:59 PM

Merc, it seems like there is always a reason to run up the credit card. With the last administration it was the two-front war, this administration it was continuing the bailout and stimulus started by the previous administration to save the economy and the war. You are putting much too much onus on Obama, and when you do that you lose creditably for your argument. ESPECIALLY considering the concessions Obama has made.

classicman · 09-08-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Can I be part of your clique, Classic? You know - confusion to our enemies and all that?

If two makes a clique - sure. maybe we can have a secret handshake or something.

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Merc, it seems like there is always a reason to run up the credit card.

True. 9/11 must have been a non-event for you.

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With the last administration it was the two-front war,

Iraq was and remains a completely questionable edevor in my mind. Don't expect me to whole heartedly support it. Afgan was the game and we took our eye off the ball IMHO.

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.... this administration it was continuing the bailout and stimulus started by the previous administration to save the economy and the war.

Sooner or later you liberals have to stop blaming Bush. This is and was a Demoncratic operation, they controlled Congress when he took office and continued to control office til 2010. They control the purse strings, they own it....

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You are putting much too much onus on Obama,

No, you are giving him a pass... He is a complete and utter failure...

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and when you do that you lose creditably for your argument. ESPECIALLY considering the concessions Obama has made.

Your assessment of me is insignificant and carries no weight. This is not about me. It is about the failures of Obama and the Congress. I could give a fuck what you think about my credibility, this is about Obama's credibility, not mine. He failed.

classicman · 09-08-2011, 10:09 PM

Fuck you Merc.

Lamplighter · 09-08-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

<snip> Here's a question from a dumb aussie.
If the dems think Obama isn't going to win in 2012, can they put someone else forward instead?
I don't quite get the whole structure of US politics in that way.

Over here in the westminister style of parliament we use, if a party loses faith in the leader,
they can basically vote him/her out and stick him on the back bench and put someone else in charge.

Recent history says the US can't handle intra-party challenges
to an incumbent President... or 3rd party candidates.
The last time we had such a situation was when LB Johnson announced
he would not run for a 2nd term (due to Viet Nam War).

The result was chaos...

Robert Kennedy was assassinated,
Chicago had a police riot,
Cities across the country had race riots,
Hubert Humphrey became the Dem's nominee,
Ross Perow tried a 3rd party end run,

Nixon was elected, and we all know how that worked out !

'course, back then Merc was just a child, so it might be different now

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

'course, back then Merc was just a child, so it might be different now

True dat... and thank God black people and women can vote now....

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Fuck you Merc.

classicman · 09-08-2011, 10:22 PM

Hiya Lamp - Missed you.

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 10:23 PM

This football game beats anything Obamy spouted off tonight!

BigV · 09-08-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Recent history says the US can't handle intra-party challenges
to an incumbent President... or 3rd party candidates.
The last time we had such a situation was when LB Johnson announced
he would not run for a 2nd term (due to Viet Nam War).

The result was chaos...

Robert Kennedy was assassinated,
Chicago had a police riot,
Cities across the country had race riots,
Hubert Humphrey became the Dem's nominee,
Ross Perow tried a 3rd party end run,

Nixon was elected, and we all know how that worked out !

'course, back then Merc was just a child, so it might be different now

what do you mean "back then"?

Aliantha · 09-08-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Hiya Lamp - Missed you.

I second this. Where have you been Lamp?

SamIam · 09-09-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Fuck you Merc.

Yeah, fuck you Merc.

Me and my clique agree on that, anyhow.

classicman · 09-09-2011, 12:07 AM

Shuddup and get to work on that handshake.

09-08-2011, 09:59 PM	#63
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Merc, it seems like there is always a reason to run up the credit card. With the last administration it was the two-front war, this administration it was continuing the bailout and stimulus started by the previous administration to save the economy and the war. You are putting much too much onus on Obama, and when you do that you lose creditably for your argument. ESPECIALLY considering the concessions Obama has made. __________________ Jesse LaGreca in 2012 “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” – Mahatma Gandhi

09-08-2011, 10:09 PM	#66
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Fuck you Merc. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-08-2011, 10:22 PM	#70
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Hiya Lamp - Missed you. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-08-2011, 10:23 PM	#71
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	This football game beats anything Obamy spouted off tonight! __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-09-2011, 12:07 AM	#75
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Shuddup and get to work on that handshake. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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