Obama Care vs Republicans - Page 5

Happy Monkey · 09-25-2013, 09:39 PM

It's not single-payer.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-26-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

It's not single-payer.

That's the biggie. There are many flaws in the program, the result of the compromises necessary to get the big money/power players to not fight it. But these can be fixed, one by one. The problem I see is ever getting those changes made. Look at what Medicare pays for drugs as an example of continuing malfeasance.

tw · 09-26-2013, 10:44 PM

While extremists are making war on a good idea from a Conservative think tank; previously callled RomneyCare. We are not advancing mankind by moving on to the next problem: excessive hospital costs and charges.

Their obstruction further exposes why they only naysay. As Limbaugh said, "We want America to fail." It explains why wackos have nothing to replace ObamaCare. That would require intelligent thinking.

Remember intelligent thinking? Same wackos rhetoric surrendered to the Taliban in Afghanistan to invent an unnecessary war called Mission Accomplished.

Even Ted Cruz did a 21 hour filibuster ... to do what? He had no purpose other than to grandstand. To rally wacko extremists to be even more hateful, destructive, and obstructive. His filibuster had no useful purpose other than to naysay.

If Congress had many fewer wackos, then long ago we moved on to the next problem - excessive hospital costs.

BigV · 09-26-2013, 05:04 PM

touche'

well played.

DanaC · 09-28-2013, 10:15 AM

Was this the same awesome speechifying in which he equated what was happening with healthcare in America to Nazi Germany?

Lamplighter · 09-28-2013, 10:18 AM

Yes.

DanaC · 09-28-2013, 03:24 PM

Is this the same guy who said entitlements once in place are never removed and that people become 'addicted' to those entitlements?

So...Americans don't like Obamacare, but if they get healthcare entitlements they'll like them so much they'll never want to give them up?

Adak · 09-29-2013, 03:10 AM

If you saw Cruz reading Dr. Seuss to his kids, all the way through, you would have to agree:

It was a touching family moment. I don't care WHAT your politics are, this rose above it. Of course, Senator Cruz is the "Conservative devil of the month", so he is to be vilified by all the media, and the loyal non-thinkers who honestly believe:

* wealth is made by the gov't.

* and since the gov't prints the money, the more bills we print, the higher our wealth will become.

I nearly fell over when Nancy Pelosi was explaining that food stamps were "an excellent stimulus for the economy".

And not ONE* reporter questioned the madness of that statement, although it was widely covered by the media.

*that I heard about

Today on CBS news I was listening to how the Republicans were trying to "destroy" the government, with their latest resolutions, etc.

Not one word of anything fair or impartial about the Republicans. Nope, they're the devils, and we're going to slander them until the cows come home, and then get up and do it again tomorrow.

Because they know that making one party, hate the other party, makes for great compromises in Washington.

tw · 09-29-2013, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Adak

It was a touching family moment.

A politician was wasting everyone's time. Even Cruz could not define what his purpose was. It did not matter. He was promoting himself to the naive who ignored he was filibustering without purpose. He had no strategic objective. And still some foolishly praised him for wasting time reading about green eggs.

Eventually even he voted to do what he said he was trying to stop.

Even the Geico Gecko speaks with a purpose.

Adak · 09-29-2013, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

A politician was wasting everyone's time. Even Cruz could not define what his purpose was. It did not matter. He was promoting himself to the naive who ignored he was filibustering without purpose. He had no strategic objective. And still some foolishly praised him for wasting time reading about green eggs.

Eventually even he voted to do what he said he was trying to stop.

Even the Geico Gecko speaks with a purpose.

Senator Cruz explained EXACTLY what his purpose was. When was the last time you actually HEARD opinions other than your own, expressed?

His objective was strategic, not tactical. Learn the difference!

Good, you listen to animated commercials - well, we all have to start somewhere.

Lamplighter · 09-29-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adak

<snip>
Good, you listen to animated commercials - well, we all have to start somewhere.

ad hominem - the sign of a lost argument.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-29-2013, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw

A politician was wasting everyone's time. Even Cruz could not define what his purpose was. It did not matter. He was promoting himself to the naive who ignored he was filibustering without purpose. He had no strategic objective. And still some foolishly praised him for wasting time reading about green eggs.

Eventually even he voted to do what he said he was trying to stop.

Even the Geico Gecko speaks with a purpose.

He had a purpose, he raised $1.5 million for his campaign chest with that stunt.

tw · 09-29-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

He had a purpose, he raised $1.5 million for his campaign chest with that stunt.

His purpose was to get the most easily brainwashed to give him more money. He successfully rewarded his greed. Extremists say it was good - to screw America.

A patriotic Cruz would have proposed eliminating the paper dollar bill to save a $billion annually. But working for America contradicts his purpose. Extremists work for their agenda - at the expense of America. Same people also massacred 5000 American servicemen in Mission Accomplished. Said that also was good. And got more contributions for doing it.

Clodfobble · 09-29-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Adak

If you saw Cruz reading Dr. Seuss to his kids, all the way through, you would have to agree

Just so we're clear, Senator Cruz was in Washington, and his kids live in his home state of Texas. When Congress is in session, he sees them very little, like all Congressmen. He was not missing any extra time with his kids because of this particular stunt.

Adak · 09-30-2013, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Just so we're clear, Senator Cruz was in Washington, and his kids live in his home state of Texas. When Congress is in session, he sees them very little, like all Congressmen. He was not missing any extra time with his kids because of this particular stunt.

Wrong again!

Like most Congressmen, he keeps in touch with his family during the time they're in Washington, by using things like Skype, and the telephone, etc.

That includes reading bedtime stories, to his two sons. Man, you guys are a cynical bunch.

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09-26-2013, 10:44 PM	#3
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	While extremists are making war on a good idea from a Conservative think tank; previously callled RomneyCare. We are not advancing mankind by moving on to the next problem: excessive hospital costs and charges. Their obstruction further exposes why they only naysay. As Limbaugh said, "We want America to fail." It explains why wackos have nothing to replace ObamaCare. That would require intelligent thinking. Remember intelligent thinking? Same wackos rhetoric surrendered to the Taliban in Afghanistan to invent an unnecessary war called Mission Accomplished. Even Ted Cruz did a 21 hour filibuster ... to do what? He had no purpose other than to grandstand. To rally wacko extremists to be even more hateful, destructive, and obstructive. His filibuster had no useful purpose other than to naysay. If Congress had many fewer wackos, then long ago we moved on to the next problem - excessive hospital costs.

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Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Yes.

09-29-2013, 03:10 AM	#8
Adak Lecturer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 796	If you saw Cruz reading Dr. Seuss to his kids, all the way through, you would have to agree: It was a touching family moment. I don't care WHAT your politics are, this rose above it. Of course, Senator Cruz is the "Conservative devil of the month", so he is to be vilified by all the media, and the loyal non-thinkers who honestly believe: * wealth is made by the gov't. * and since the gov't prints the money, the more bills we print, the higher our wealth will become. I nearly fell over when Nancy Pelosi was explaining that food stamps were "an excellent stimulus for the economy". And not ONE* reporter questioned the madness of that statement, although it was widely covered by the media. *that I heard about Today on CBS news I was listening to how the Republicans were trying to "destroy" the government, with their latest resolutions, etc. Not one word of anything fair or impartial about the Republicans. Nope, they're the devils, and we're going to slander them until the cows come home, and then get up and do it again tomorrow. Because they know that making one party, hate the other party, makes for great compromises in Washington.

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