Hey, everybody, I could use some input!

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

ignoring her and those like her won;t make it better. If I give her shit, and it makes her think twice about posting useless look at me threads, .....that works.

Not necessarily. What is useless and what is not varies from person to person. You used to post a lot of stuff that many thought was clever and funny, but I found to be stupid and uninteresting.

well, how do you expect that to happen if no one has the balls to call someone out when they act like a ninny? the software won;t do it.....Tony can't. dave is gone, FnF aint here.......sycamore is too lazy to be honest about how he really fells about her, blah blah blah.

Like uselessness, "ninnyness" varies from person to person. I personally don't have a problem with Mari. She irritates on occasion, but no worse than most. UT has not had a problem banning people he thinks are a problem before, so I don't see what is stopping him now, if this is indeed a problem to him. FNF was a twit with no personality who I'd rank 3rd on my All-Cellar Retard Team. And Dave jumped ship over something rather trivial.

I don't know what your deal is, Jim. It seems to me like you are aspiring to become Dave, even though you will never ever get there because you just don't have the skills. Not to mention, you don't post that much anymore, and Mari has never done anything to you or your buddies...at least that I've seen.

And you were the one that completely melted down over HB's post...now look at you. You're just like him now...congratulations!

[lumberjim]

RHO.....i said i DIDN'T give you any crap over it. mainly because you used to not annoy me. you;re starting to now, though. why don't you just stop now? I have no interest in getting into it with you. you don;t post enough to be annoying regardless of how I feel about it.

[tw]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

RHO.....i said i DIDN'T give you any crap over it. mainly because you used to not annoy me. you;re starting to now, though. why don't you just stop now? I have no interest in getting into it with you. you don;t post enough to be annoying regardless of how I feel about it.

Men don't care. Only men who never grew up let another's post annoy them. If it annoys you, then ignore it - be a man. The only thing a man is concerned with are facts.

Speaking of facts, I checked. Cucumbers are not on sale. Why would you lie?

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by tw

Men don't care. Only men who never grew up let another's post annoy them. If it annoys you, then ignore it - be a man. The only thing a man is concerned with are facts.

Damn..well said.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

RHO.....i said i DIDN'T give you any crap over it.

I know, and I didn't say that you did.

mainly because you used to not annoy me. you;re starting to now, though. why don't you just stop now? I have no interest in getting into it with you. you don;t post enough to be annoying regardless of how I feel about it.

Jim: Calm down..and read carefully...please.

I was defending Mari's right to post what she wants to post here and your right to not read it if it's so bad and horrible for you to read, that's all *shrugs*


Peace.

[Beestie]

Originally posted by Lumberjim

I'm not even going to reply to tw (except to remind him that cucumbers are on sale at the acme).

Whiskey and cheap cigar smoke all over my monitor.

[jaguar]

You want to get into the reletive value of people's posts TS? Glass house.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by jaguar

You want to get into the reletive value of people's posts TS? Glass house.

I've only noticed you disparaging my posts...

Also, my posts are generally aimed at expanding the perspective of an issue or asking for clarifications so as to expand my knowledge and reasoning skills.

I come here for the intellectual input, yours included, not for warm fuzzy feel good homilies and specious platitudes.

[jaguar]

I don't think anyone could accuse mari of being limited to warm fuzzy feel good homilies. Nor would I accuse her, or Rho of being dominated by their respective disabilities. frankly, it gives them both different perspectives to a lot of us, I personally welcome that. I'm sure everyone here has their advocates and detractors, the only person who has in any way any right to say whether someone is 'right' for cellar or not and unless I'm greatly mistaken, UT abdicated, wisely, that power for general purposes a while back.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by jaguar

I don't think anyone could accuse mari of being limited to warm fuzzy feel good homilies. Nor would I accuse her, or Rho of being dominated by their respective disabilities. frankly, it gives them both different perspectives to a lot of us, I personally welcome that. I'm sure everyone here has their advocates and detractors, the only person who has in any way any right to say whether someone is 'right' for cellar or not and unless I'm greatly mistaken, UT abdicated, wisely, that power for general purposes a while back.

I think that the big issue here is the heat that LJ is taking for bitching and moaning about marichiko bitching and moaning. He and others are annoyed by the apparent willingness of some to tolerate hers while being intolerant of his equal right to not be silent about it.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

I think that the big issue here is the heat that LJ is taking for bitching and moaning about marichiko bitching and moaning. He and others are annoyed by the apparent willingness of some to tolerate hers while being intolerant of his equal right to not be silent about it.

Bitching and moaning is in the eye of the beholder.

I certainly don't see Mari's posts as "moaning" as it is more "expressing feelings and thoughts". Maybe it's because I can relate, to certain degrees. And Elspode said it best in his reply:

http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...3&page=5&pp=15

Guess I'm just a believer in people with medical conditions have the right to say what they want, however they want *shrugs*.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by ladysycamore

Guess I'm just a believer in people with medical conditions have the right to say what they want, however they want *shrugs*.

Guess I'm just a believer in people without medical conditions have the right to say what they want, however they want *shrugs*.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Guess I'm just a believer in people without medical conditions have the right to say what they want, however they want *shrugs*.

Hey, you know what? If the board OWNER has no problem with it, then so be it!

Jaguar wrote:

"I'm sure everyone here has their advocates and detractors, the only person who has in any way any right to say whether someone is 'right' for cellar or not and unless I'm greatly mistaken, UT abdicated, wisely, that power for general purposes a while back.

However, it's STILL UT's board (even if he did abdicate his power, he still OWNS IT and therefore, can take back that power).

Look, we can all agree to disagree, but no one is forcing anyone to read any particular post/thread, etc.

[lookout123]

somehow i think Jim is sitting back laughing pretty hard at how stirred up everyone got. in fact, i'm having a hard time not laughing at it, because this is all pretty ridiculous. while some of you know eachother IRL, this remains the internet. it is amazing that people are getting so emotionally charged on what really amounts to a big "I don't like you" fest. let's face it - Jim has gotten you all going. he is a masterful feces stirrer.

i think the speed with which everyone was willing to draw sides on this issue is evidence that the cellar hasn't had any really good "issues" thread in awhile. it's time to burn off some of our energy we've saved up for arguments, apparently.

[LabRat]

I hate to butt into other people's pissing matches, but i want to argee with some of the sentiments that the 'feel' of the cellar has changed over time. That's part of the coolness IMHO.

Originally Posted by ladysycamore

Bitching and moaning is in the eye of the beholder.
Guess I'm just a believer in people with medical conditions have the right to say what they want, however they want *shrugs*.

Please remember that everyone here has the right to post their opinions, feelings, and the (hopefully fully checked) facts to back them up. I definately find some posts whiney, rude, stupid etc but I try to keep in mind when i read them that I am not perfect either, and i take into consideration the incredible variation in age, edcucation, and life experiences of all of the cellerites. This would be a really freaking boring place if we were all the same. If you're too lazy to be a bit empathetic to others, 1) ignore 'em and don't tell me about it, or 2) stop participating in this community. I like to hear opinions/feeling from those in other places in their lives, either because of age, illness, divorce, or loss of job, (and the good stuff too!). Even tho I may not be there right now, it could be me at any moment, and i need to be considerate of others who might not be where they want to be.

that is all.