"losers" with "no life" on Saturday night

[Griff]

aluminum is fine

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Griff

aluminum is fine

Well, the idiom is "tinfoil hat", made from aluminum, of course. "tin cans" have a steel core, too, and "pencil lead" is graphite.

Damn, if I thought somebody was bombarding my house with radio waves, I'd be able to tell you flux denities, frequency spectra, waveforms and direction.

[barefoot serpent]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Stockpile lots of ammo, it'll make great footage when the Apaches come.

sweet!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by barefoot serpent

sweet!

Originally Posted by MaggieL
I don't have to defend my right to exist by being an armed citizen, but I do choose to do so; it's my right and I won't give it up. Trading my birthright for the liberal's mess of pottage won't change the threats I face one whit.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Stockpile lots of ammo, it'll make great footage when the Apaches come.

When the Apaches come; or, any other hostiles for that matter, I'd rather have MaggieL covering my 6 than many others here. Successful civilian personal defense is best achieved by adopting it as a life style just as soldiers, citizen-soldiers, and police have done. Proper mindset is essential to successfully employing the knowledge of weapons and tactics. MaggieL's priorities are squared away.

A single person can greatly affect the outcome of hostilities of the type that individuals are most likely to encounter. Even in the event of larger scale hostilities (e.g. riots), personal defense skills can be useful. An individual need not defeat all of the opposing hostiles in order to "win"; rather, the individual need only use available means to break contact with the hostiles and survive. This is a practical capability considering that our collective defensive systems (e.g. police, National Guard) are insufficient to protect everyone needing protection.

For the same reason (i.e. inadequate collective defensive systems), some people want to have their own gas masks and chemical protective suits. The government isn't going to issue these items to civilians, except for a few politically high profile locations, even if there is a chemical, biological, or radiological (e.g. dirty bomb) attack let alone just because people may live in a high risk area for these.

That's why it's BYOG(guns), A(ammo), PG(protective gear), W(water), F(food), ... BYOEverything; or, BYEBYE! It's simply not irrational these days to be prepared if one has the means.

[Elspode]

Originally Posted by NoBoxes

That's why it's BYOG(guns), A(ammo), PG(protective gear), W(water), F(food), ... BYOEverything; or, BYEBYE! It's simply not irrational these days to be prepared if one has the means.

Hey...I'm completely in favor of this. The question is...when the hostiles come, are they gonna be other Americans? I think that is a more likely scenario than an airliner plunging down into my suburb.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Okay, I can get behind that.

[MaggieL]

And as we all know, small arms can't down a helo. Even if you shout "Allahu akbar!" afterward. Or "Wolverenes!"

Furthermore, "A pistol is what you use to fight your way to your rifle"-- Clint Smith (Lather, rinse, repeat until you've worked your way up to an arm that isn't too small. See FP-45, OSS Stinger during WWII)


Actually, the politicians *are* a solution....but they're a solution to the problem of "somebody has to run this thing", and that solution does generate more problems of its own.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Not exactly....a friend of mine asked a PA State Police chopper pilot, where you would aim, (hypothetically, of course) to bring down a chopper with a rifle/pistol. The pilot looked at him in amazement and said, "At the pilot".

But, my point was "stockpiling ammo" has it's practical limits. I try to keep at least 10k round cases of the common stuff, plus a variety of other calibers. The fact remains, however good your plans and intentions may be, if you become a pain in the ass to the government, they'll eliminate the problem(you) with a precision sledgehammer.
They work on the asking forgiveness rather than asking permission theory, except they don't ask forgiveness.



Uh oh, it's Saturday night.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Uh oh, it's Saturday night.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

It's a beautiful evening. The first day in a month or two we've had the windows open all day.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But, my point was "stockpiling ammo" has it's practical limits. I try to keep at least 10k round cases of the common stuff

10,000 rounds of any caliber is quite a bit more than a "case". Typically a "case" is 1,000 rounds of pistol caliber ammo, although it may be packaged in 500 round cases, as rifle caliber is.

(We did a video shoot for "In Bed With Butch" for WYBE today...should air on October 19, he tells us. If I wasn't paying off a wedding trip I might well have come home from the range with a shiny new semiauto AK47)

Anyway, you wouldn't wanna try to lift 10,000 rounds of anything.

One person who's a pain in the ass to the government is eligable for the "precision sledghammer" treatment. A whole bunch of such people (quite a bit more than, say, a Waco's-worth) is an "insurgency".

Despite the story liberal twits will try to sell you, this *is* still a democracy (modulo the fact that it's actually a republic).

I'm sure your friend has thought about that quite a bit...helo cops that do survellance for pot farms are frequently shot at. In fact all kinds of helos are shot at; the guy who owned the airport where I learned to fly once brought his Jet Ranger back with a bullet hole.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

In fact all kinds of helos are shot at;

They fly low, are loud, and fly over populated areas. They bug me too.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

10,000 rounds of any caliber is quite a bit more than a "case". Typically a "case" is 1,000 rounds of pistol caliber ammo, although it may be packaged in 500 round cases, as rifle caliber is.

Ha Ha Ha ...yeah my bad, I really have to learn to proof read, having the spell checker has made me lazy......er, lazier.
1K(1000) typically, except the 7.62x39 is 1400/case.

I'm sure your friend has thought about that quite a bit...helo cops that do surveillance for pot farms are frequently shot at. In fact all kinds of Helios are shot at; the guy who owned the airport where I learned to fly once brought his Jet Ranger back with a bullet hole.

I used to think people should have to eat what they shoot, until I realized we'd soon run out of stop signs.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I used to think people should have to eat what they shoot, until I realized we'd soon run out of stop signs.

And some cops would be even worse shots than they already are.

Doing that video shoot for "In Bed with Butch" we discovered a new kind of "Shoot-N-C" target from Birchwood-Casey, the brand is "Dirty Bird". Nice, and not dreadfully expensive.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Or "Wolverenes!"

Wolverene (tm) -- a patent solvent for cleaning sticky wolverines off your windshield. New from Bugsplat Junction!

Actually, the politicians *are* a solution....but they're a solution to the problem of "somebody has to run this thing", and that solution does generate more problems of its own.

Severeid's Law in action, and particularly true of things political.