The Blasphemy Challenge - Page 7

Undertoad · 03-09-2007, 03:44 PM

Who said it was about building a community? It's all about making a point. The video is irrelevant. There are over 2000 responses now -- withonly the first 1000 getting a video -- so further video-making won't earn anyone a video.

Undertoad · 03-09-2007, 04:03 PM

Ah thanks. Well, I disagree with rk. It's all about making a point.

KGZotU · 03-09-2007, 04:15 PM

Undertoad,

If you want to make a point, I won't challenge you. The Blasphemy Challenge is the appropriate medium. (;

lumberjim · 03-09-2007, 04:36 PM

just because i hate it when my posts land at the bottom of a page, and then someone posts right after....and i think no one saw what i posted.....and i am seeing a new guy make more sense than anyone else ( KGZ) ...i want to reiterate:

There is no Blashpemy if you are truly atheistic. It's just pissing on the Christians. The same thing we (as atheists or agnostics) resent them for. So how is this helping? Are you hoping to convert people to your lack of a church? Are you truly being altruisticly motivated to 'rescue them' from brainwashing?

If they want to believe in Christianity, or Hinduism, or Islam, or whatevvvvver....fuck 'em. leave them to it. just require that they pay you the same respect. You don't have to get all up in their face and act out like some kind of rebelious teenager. You're not going to change their minds.

So why do I always argue with mrnoodle? cuz i like to. And if you like making videos that so daringly damn your everliving soul.....for the rush? don't claim to be atheistic, cuz yer not!

piercehawkeye45 · 03-10-2007, 12:37 AM

Quote:

It's preposterous to suggest that I've created a double standard. Where have a I set a standard for Christians or any other group?

You have done it by not setting a standard.

Yes, this video can be confrontational and I won't avoid that fact, but it does have some justification. Christians have forced their religion onto everyone and this is just atheists pushing back. I would like to see an atheist go onto national television and briefly explain what atheism is and get rid of the stereotypes but that won't happen because that person would never get aired. It would be like trying to set up a sit in protest when you can't even get into the restaurant.

KGZotU · 03-10-2007, 08:54 AM

It sounds like we've found an area of agreement. (;

Since I apparently was not entirely clear, I did not discuss the actions of Christians for the purpose of focus. Atheists should be righteous, Christians should be righteous, everyone should be righteous. And in a world where any group is not, I understand that this rather challenges the options of the opposition.

--Joe

03-10-2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You have done it by not setting a standard.

Yes, this video can be confrontational and I won't avoid that fact, but it does have some justification. Christians have forced their religion onto everyone and this is just atheists pushing back. I would like to see an atheist go onto national television and briefly explain what atheism is and get rid of the stereotypes but that won't happen because that person would never get aired. It would be like trying to set up a sit in protest when you can't even get into the restaurant.

Exactly, just like you will never hear on television that there are nineteen states where it is illegal to hold office as an atheist.

Jim, did you even read the previous posts or is that a tail-post?

lumberjim · 03-10-2007, 11:28 PM

I read the whole thread, hammer. did you not understand my point?

03-12-2007, 01:58 AM

No I did not and that is why I asked if you read the thread is because I, and others, stated multiple times that this was not about xians in any way, not for them and has nothing to do with them.
That they do not like the language or anything else to do with the challenge is irrelevant.
It is not for them.

lumberjim · 03-12-2007, 11:49 AM

really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by your first post in the thread

Do you dare accept the Blasphemy Challenge? Show the world how sure you are that the Christian God doesn't exist! Find out more at http://www.blasphemychallenge.com
http://www.rationalresponders.com

lumberjim · 03-12-2007, 11:51 AM

anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-12-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim

anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe.

It is accepted as a society that God does exists so it would be blasphemy on sociological sense and not personal which is the point of the video.

lumberjim · 03-12-2007, 01:53 PM

so, then it's just being shitty. ok. have fun with it.

03-12-2007, 01:57 PM

Exactly, but the egocentric are going to always see the world filtered through themselves and cannot see it any way else.
"This is about me because I choose for it to be. I choose to be offended, so it is offensive".

HungLikeJesus · 03-13-2007, 09:43 AM

I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?)

03-09-2007, 04:15 PM	#3
KGZotU Vivacious Vivisectionist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 36	Undertoad, If you want to make a point, I won't challenge you. The Blasphemy Challenge is the appropriate medium. (; __________________ "An extended limb is a broken limb."

03-09-2007, 04:36 PM	#4
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	just because i hate it when my posts land at the bottom of a page, and then someone posts right after....and i think no one saw what i posted.....and i am seeing a new guy make more sense than anyone else ( KGZ) ...i want to reiterate: There is no Blashpemy if you are truly atheistic. It's just pissing on the Christians. The same thing we (as atheists or agnostics) resent them for. So how is this helping? Are you hoping to convert people to your lack of a church? Are you truly being altruisticly motivated to 'rescue them' from brainwashing? If they want to believe in Christianity, or Hinduism, or Islam, or whatevvvvver....fuck 'em. leave them to it. just require that they pay you the same respect. You don't have to get all up in their face and act out like some kind of rebelious teenager. You're not going to change their minds. So why do I always argue with mrnoodle? cuz i like to. And if you like making videos that so daringly damn your everliving soul.....for the rush? don't claim to be atheistic, cuz yer not! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-10-2007, 08:54 AM	#6
KGZotU Vivacious Vivisectionist Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 36	It sounds like we've found an area of agreement. (; Since I apparently was not entirely clear, I did not discuss the actions of Christians for the purpose of focus. Atheists should be righteous, Christians should be righteous, everyone should be righteous. And in a world where any group is not, I understand that this rather challenges the options of the opposition. --Joe __________________ "An extended limb is a broken limb."

03-10-2007, 11:28 PM	#8
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I read the whole thread, hammer. did you not understand my point? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-12-2007, 11:51 AM	#11
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Who said it was about building a community? It's all about making a point. The video is irrelevant. There are over 2000 responses now -- withonly the first 1000 getting a video -- so further video-making won't earn anyone a video.

03-09-2007, 04:03 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Ah thanks. Well, I disagree with rk. It's all about making a point.

03-12-2007, 01:58 AM	#9
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	No I did not and that is why I asked if you read the thread is because I, and others, stated multiple times that this was not about xians in any way, not for them and has nothing to do with them. That they do not like the language or anything else to do with the challenge is irrelevant. It is not for them.

03-12-2007, 01:53 PM	#13
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	so, then it's just being shitty. ok. have fun with it. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-12-2007, 01:57 PM	#14
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Exactly, but the egocentric are going to always see the world filtered through themselves and cannot see it any way else. "This is about me because I choose for it to be. I choose to be offended, so it is offensive".

03-13-2007, 09:43 AM	#15
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?) __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

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