I'm voting Republican

[Radar]

I firmly believe that Obama will win, and he will win handily. I also believe that unlike the Republicans, he will have the desire and ability to come through on his promise to remove all troops from Iraq within his first year and a half in office. He will have a Democratic Congress behind him.

If he's elected, there is no question that every American troop will be out of Iraq within a year and a half of his inauguration...assuming he lives that long.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Radar

If he's elected, there is no question that every American troop will be out of Iraq within a year and a half of his inauguration...assuming he lives that long.

Then put up your $1000. I got mine right here ready and waiting. I'm sure there will be troops in Iraq whenever the next president leaves office. So I am supremely confident that you are completely wrong and are blowing smoke out your ass with that prediction.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

Then put up your $1000. I got mine right here ready and waiting. I'm sure there will be troops in Iraq whenever the next president leaves office. So I am supremely confident that you are completely wrong and are blowing smoke out your ass with that prediction.

I see smoke.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008...50.htm?&page=1

[Radar]

Originally Posted by classicman

Then put up your $1000. I got mine right here ready and waiting. I'm sure there will be troops in Iraq whenever the next president leaves office. So I am supremely confident that you are completely wrong and are blowing smoke out your ass with that prediction.

After Obama is elected, we'll talk about making a $1,000 bet that the troops will be gone from Iraq within 18 months. Mention it the 2nd week of November.

[classicman]

Oh and if he "doesn't live that long I'll give you the "out" We each get our money back, but UT still gets the interest.

[classicman]

no thanks - the deal is on the table now - either recant your statements, in writing, or put up. Whats the big deal? You stated that this would happen as a matter of fact. I bet you on it. Call & put up your money or fold and recant in writing.

[Radar]

Nope. I won't recant anything and I won't accept your best until Obama is first elected. When Obama is elected, you can talk to me about a bet where he brings the troops back within a year and a half. If you don't want the bet after he's elected, it proves that you lack the courage of your convictions.

[classicman]

lol - If you weren't so pathetic you'd be funny.

[Aliantha]

I want to know what the difference is between Classics money and the other people you've made bets with.

[Radar]

The differences are A) I know the people I've made bets with and they can and will pay me when I win. and B) They are making a straight bet while classic wants to make a parlay bet. He wants me to make 2 bets for the price of one. He wants me to bet that Obama will win, and then bet that after he wins he'll bring the troops home from Iraq within 18 months.

I am betting that Obama will win the election with my friends and family. Classic is neither of those. He's not even a decent person. In fact nobody who supports the Bush administration or the war in Iraq is a decent person or worthy of using the term "American" to describe themselves.

I've offered to consider making a bet with him after the election, but he isn't interested because he wants me to make a parlay bet with a single bet odds and payout. As a rule, I don't make parlay bets. I make regular bets and only when I know the person has enough honor, integrity, and ability to pay me when I win.

I grew up in Vegas and I consider a bet to be a big deal and welshers to be criminals.

[dar512]

Hyperbole by example:

Originally Posted by Radar

In fact nobody who supports the Bush administration or the war in Iraq is a decent person or worthy of using the term "American" to describe themselves.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Radar

The differences are A) I know the people I've made bets with and they can and will pay me when I win.

UT is going to hold the money - objection overruled.

Originally Posted by Radar

and B) They are making a straight bet while classic wants to make a parlay bet.

True and False - I am betting that you are WRONG in statements you have repeatedly posted here - I am asking you to back up what YOU said. Nothing more, That should be no problem for you if you are so confident. Yet, you are not - Thats fine. We all know the truth now.

Originally Posted by Radar

He's not even a decent person. I make regular bets and only when I know the person has enough honor, integrity, and ability to pay me when I win.

Foul! Cheap shot. Ahh, your ignorance is showing, again. You are completely incorrect.

I am willing to let a 3rd party hold the money, you are not. I also have more honor and integrity than you will ever know. At least I am willing to back up what I say, my word means something. Yours apparently does not.

It's fine radar - you have young kids and I don't want to take your money anyway. I'd make a gentleman's bet with you, but that would be an impossible bet as you sir are no gentleman.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by classicman

UT is going to hold the money - objection overruled.

In order for the objection to be overruled, the person holding the money must be trustworthy in the opinion of the parties making the bet. I don't trust UT any more than I trust you or any of the other people who constantly flood the board with lies like TheMercenary, Urbane Guerrilla, Lookout123, etc.

Originally Posted by classicman

True and False - I am betting that you are WRONG in statements you have repeatedly posted here - I am asking you to back up what YOU said. Nothing more, That should be no problem for you if you are so confident. Yet, you are not - Thats fine. We all know the truth now.

Yes, we do know the truth. And the truth is I'm willing to stand behind what I say. I've already done it to the tune of $3,000. I will not allow an ignorant little twerp like you to push me into making a sucker's bet though. As I've said, if I thought you were good for the money, and he were already elected, we can consider a bet. Let's take it one step at a time. I'm in no rush sparky. If you're so anxious to make a bet with me, and make sure I stand behind what I say, talk to me after election day. I'll probably have an extra $3,000 to bet with.

Originally Posted by classicman

Foul! Cheap shot. Ahh, your ignorance is showing, again. You are completely incorrect.

I'm entitled to my opinion.

Originally Posted by classicman

I am willing to let a 3rd party hold the money, you are not.

I haven't said anything that would indicate that I'm unwilling for someone to hold the money in escrow if we both can agree on a bet after election day.

Originally Posted by classicman

I also have more honor and integrity than you will ever know. At least I am willing to back up what I say, my word means something. Yours apparently does not.

My word means far more than anyone in the Bush administration, the McCain campaign, or anyone who supports those people combined. I'm willing to make a bet with you on the troop withdrawal after Obama is elected. I'm willing to have someone we both trust hold the money in escrow. I'd be willing to trust Lumberjim.

Originally Posted by classicman

It's fine radar - you have young kids and I don't want to take your money anyway. I'd make a gentleman's bet with you, but that would be an impossible bet as you sir are no gentleman.

You are entitled to your opinion.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Radar

In order for the objection to be overruled, the person holding the money must be trustworthy in the opinion of the parties making the bet. I don't trust UT any more than I trust you

Rather telling.

Originally Posted by Radar

Yes, we do know the truth. And the truth is I'm willing to stand behind what I say. I will not allow an ignorant little twerp like you to push me into making a sucker's bet though.

No you aren't - remember you are the one that said something like Obama would have to get caught with a girl scout or something for him to lose the election? If that is such a foregone conclusion then the only bet is that all the troops will be out in 18 months.

Little twerp - lol - quite mature of you. There goes what little respect anyone might have had for you.

Originally Posted by Radar

I'm entitled to my opinion.

Like an asshole - everyone has one.

Originally Posted by Radar

I'm willing to make a bet with you on the troop withdrawal after Obama is elected. I'm willing to have someone we both trust hold the money in escrow. I'd be willing to trust Lumberjim.

Whatever, I've grown tired of your constant backpedaling. Put up or shut up.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Okay, so radar is going to try pettifogging with technicalities to make excuse after excuse never to pay up if and when called for. That is known to normal people as "cheating." He's declared an intention to cheat even before placing the wager. Integrity? Not on your tintype, radar, you who are in thrall to your basest emotional drives, and only the basest. Base emotional drives are evinced in a great readiness to call everyone else an asshole. It will instruct you to look up the phrase "spherical asshole." The less I am influenced or dominated by you, the shittier your language and the more poo-flinging you do: evidence of a third-rate intellect and an incapacity for grace. You've lost when you no longer argue the merits of your case in matters of policy but resort to the adhominem.

Why Lumberjim over Undertoad I have no idea -- seems an altogether unmerited disparaging of UT, and what's up with that one? Radar ain't tellin' any more than he's proven anything on which he disagrees with me. Well, bullshit artists have no business being anywhere near a picture of the Madonna anyway.

Well, anyway, it all suggests he's not successful enough to afford risking his thousand or his three thousand, whichever. Yeah, he has the dishonor of being a blowhard and a schmuck, and classicman has neatly bent him over a picket fence and is porking him until he looks like a unicorn and sounds like a gargle commercial.

Once again, I'll remark that his reasons for disliking the Republicans -- all the way back to that distinctly libertarianoid Reagan -- would suit the tastes of a crazy or a bigot. Unhappily for his kind of thinking, I am neither.

You're your own worst enemy/a, Paul. After all, you can't recognize any libertarians who aren't you, which makes you less than libertarian, pointlessly hostile to freedom of thought, and more than foutu. Sounds like your departure from the LP was attended with no regret at all from any quarter. Politics is a team effort, and narcissistic personalities can't adapt. If they can't oppress or domineer, they must flee. Bye bye.