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[plthijinx]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

You mean, if you turn hard with rudder without banking, both wings will lose lift?

no, what happens is this:

Because of the possibility of exceeding the airplane’s limitations, flaps should not be extended. While the gliding attitude and airspeed are being established, the airplane should be retrimmed. When the glide is stabilized, the airplane should be rolled into a medium-banked turn to simulate a final approach turn that would overshoot the centerline of the runway. During the turn, excessive rudder pressure should be applied in the direction of the turn but the bank held constant by applying opposite aileron pressure. At the same time, increased back-elevator pressure is required to keep the nose from lowering.

All of these control pressures should be increased until the airplane stalls. When the stall occurs, recovery is made by releasing the control pressures and increasing, power as necessary to recover.

In a cross-control stall, the airplane often stalls with little warning. The nose may pitch down, the inside wing may suddenly drop, and the airplane may continue to roll to an inverted position. This is usually the beginning of a spin. It is obvious that close to the ground is no place to allow this to happen

felt this could explain it better. from here

[Undertoad]

So this is why it's "cross control", because the pilot is forcing the various surfaces to fight each other's forces a little, and so at low speeds it loses lift and stalls.

[plthijinx]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

So this is why it's "cross control", because the pilot is forcing the various surfaces to fight each other's forces a little, and so at low speeds it loses lift and stalls.

exactly.

this is boring as phuck to watch (for me anyway) but this guy does a pretty thorough explanation of the as he calls it, skidded stall (aka cross control stall). but anyway, prolly what killed the brother at houston gulf.

[Aliantha]

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."

Martin Luther King Jr

[Bullitt]

False quote Aliantha
*Ahem*
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...tation/238257/

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

False quote Aliantha
*Ahem*
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...tation/238257/

I don't know what "false quote" means. Maybe you meant to say "according to this source, MLK did not say the first sentence of the quote".

[glatt]

I think it's pretty clear what "false quote" means. I have yet to see any evidence that MLK said those quoted words. He probably used each and every word in that quote at some point in his life, but just not in that order, as far as I can tell.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by glatt

I think it's pretty clear what "false quote" means. I have yet to see any evidence that MLK said those quoted words. He probably used each and every word in that quote at some point in his life, but just not in that order, as far as I can tell.

Unfortunately, he was taken from us before his time. If he hadn't used those words in that order before he died, he was bound to by the end of April 1968.

[lookout123]

"I knew right where to look for him because they keep forgetting to take my addy off muslim secrets quarterly."

BHO

[Aliantha]

A little further searching will show that that particular article is perhaps not quite factual.

It has been easy to confirm that this part is certainly a direct quote.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."

Do I need to continue?

[Aliantha]

OK, from wiki

Ch. 4 : Love in action, Sct. 3
Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. So when Jesus says "Love your enemies," he is setting forth a profound and ultimately inescapable admonition. ... The chain reaction of evil — hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars — must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.

This is from the book Strength To Love 1963

[lookout123]

Why the preoccupation with MLK quotes? Hasn't that guy been discredited enough? Isn't he the nutter that thought that whites and blacks were equal? er... nevermind.

[Aliantha]

haha...I just liked the quote when I saw it on someone's FB status. It just seems to be descriptive of the way I feel so I thought it might help people understand my perspective.

I probably should have known it'd be picked to pieces on this site, but I stand by my convictions in this matter, and that's about all I need to say.

[Bullitt]

I'm a history geek, so it just bugs me when quotes are falsified then spread around. It puts untrue words in other people's mouths, i.e. gossip.

[lookout123]

I'm just yanking your chain. I respect your feelings on the matter. I may not feel the same way but that is what makes the world go round. If everyone felt the same way we'd be even more screwed than we are with everyone disagreeing.