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Old 09-04-2019, 09:06 AM   #1
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Brexit supporters are lied to (just like Trump supporters), see the lie, and still believe and support the liar who only wants to "wreck shit".

From the Economist of 31 Aug 2019:
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ONE BY ONE, the principles on which the Brexit campaign was fought have been exposed as hollow. Before the referendum, Leavers argued that victory would enable them to negotiate a brilliant deal with the European Union. Now they advocate leaving with no deal at all. Before the vote, they said that Brexit would allow Britain to strike more free-trade agreements. Now they say that trading the the bare-bones terms of the World Trad Organizations would be fine. Loudest of all they talked of taking back control and restoring sovereignty to Parliament. Yet on August 28th Boris Johnson, a leading Leaver who is not prime minister announced that in the run-up to Brexit Parliament would be suspended altogether.

His utterly cynical ploy is designed to stop MPs steering the country off the reckless course he has set to leave the EU with or without a deal on October 31st. ... Because he is too weak to carry Parliament in a vote, he means to silence it. In Britain's representative democracy, that sets a dangerous precedent. ...

Of all her mistakes ... Theresa May's gravest was to plant the idea that Britain might do well to leaven the EU without any exit agreement. Her slogan that "no deal is better than a bad deal" was suppose to persuade the Europeans to make concessions.
Like the brainwashed who love Brexit, she also did not get it. Brexit only means more bad for British workers and their economy. How many lies will Boris Johnson (like Trump) state before a brain between shoulders replaces one hanging between legs.
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In fact the government's own analysis suggests that no deal would make the economy 9% smaller after 15 years than if Britain had remained. .... If Britain leaves with no deal it will face even more urgent need to reach terms with the EU, which will demand the same concessions as before - and perhaps greater ones, giver that Britain's had will be weaker.
All that has always been obvious. Brexit is clearly promoted by the many who only want to "wreck shit". The emotional who know only because feelings from their penis prove it.

How many more Boris Johnson lies will be exposed? They come in waves. The brainwashed who swallowed those lies will still support him. An example of how one repeatedly hates himself because he cannot think for himself. Those types can be told to "wreck shit" and therefore know it must be good.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:06 AM   #2
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"(The British) never, never, never shall be slaves."

'nuff said
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:16 PM   #3
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"(The British) never, never, never shall be slaves."
That is what they said in Syracuse. That is what they said in Constantinople. That was obvious to the Aztecs. That is what they said in Africa.

Extremists who are so sure of themselves are among the first to fall.

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Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds failure. Only the paranoid survive.
But only the paranoid who are thinking in adult manner, learn facts, reach a logical conclusion, and ignore their fears. The other paranoia, called emotion, means one becomes entrenched and indecisive. No different from extremists who breed and promote complacency; to also become entrenched and indecisive.

Brexit - because so many are entrenched, brainwashed, and indecisive.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:34 AM   #4
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"Brexit - because so many are entrenched, brainwashed, and indecisive."

Brexit: cuz people wannabe free.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:05 AM   #5
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Free from what?
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:13 PM   #6
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...and they still won't be free to go and buy semi-automatic weapons and shoot up a croquet tournament
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Old 09-25-2019, 09:32 AM   #7
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UK Supreme Court could not be more blunt. An 11-0 verdict said PM Johnson violated the law. It did not take him long (he is an extremist who only wants to wreck shit) - only two months.

Meanwhile the Conservative Financial Times did something extraordinary. They demanded the conservative Boris Johnson resign. They were blunt.
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This ruling leaves a stain on his character and competence. Faced with such a damning judgment, any premier with a shred of respect for British democracy and the responsibilities of his office would resign.
Brexit only exists because these extremists blatantly lied (some have since admitted it) and were believed.
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:02 AM   #8
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PM Johnson violated the law.

Bluntly: *impeach him.









*you Brits have sumthin' like that over there? or do you go the 'no confidence' route? How does it work there?
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:06 AM   #9
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This ruling leaves a stain on his character and competence. Faced with such a damning judgment, any premier with a shred of respect for British democracy and the responsibilities of his office would resign.
Is that a demand that he resign? Or a prediction that he won't?
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:25 AM   #10
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these extremists blatantly lied (some have since admitted it)

evidence please
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:39 PM   #11
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Is that a demand that he resign? Or a prediction that he won't?
Review history. Watergate. Nixon also lied incessantly. His entrenched supporters refused to demand what was proven necessary.

However, once his lies were too glaringly obvious, the stampede to stop supporting him was massive and fast.

Johnson (like the American extremist president) will lie incessantly while refusing to give in. We know Brexit was promoted by lies. That is not even debated any more. The lies must be so massively obvious. And then a Conservative party stampede must happen to get him to concede.

All this is causing a serious discussion about the need for a UK Constitution. For example, is it legal for Boris Johnson to lie to the Queen? Only extremists deny all this lying has been ongoing. A denial that will continue in the Conservative Party until a stampede suddenly happens.

However that will probably happen to late to save the British economy from damage that will be created by Brexit.
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:09 PM   #12
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Only extremists deny all this lying has been ongoing.

No, only extremists will keep makin' claims (look at all that lyin'!) without offerin' a jot of evidence.

But, what the hell: impeach 'em all! Impeachments all around! Bartender, another round of impeachments for all my friends! And while yer at it, take away all them ass-salt weapons too! That'll show 'em!

Let's burn this mutha down! But only within the strict confines of what's allowed by the G.N.D., of course.

And let's lobotomize all the kids, cuz what the world needs now is more Greta (used to be love, then coke, now it's a damaged teen fanatic). Hell, lobotomize the adults too (you know which ones ) cuz how the hell else are we gonna get that 100% compliance we been strivin' for? Damn well past time to dissolve them borders, unify everyone, and kumbaya ourselves into that Brave New Word!
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Old 09-27-2019, 08:14 AM   #13
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Extremists just wanna wreck shit.
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Old 09-27-2019, 08:45 AM   #14
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yes, everything 'you' hold dear I want wrecked

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Old 12-15-2019, 09:55 AM   #15
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Happy International Tea Day!

Keep Calm and Shake It Off.

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