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King Of Wishful Thinking
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Need science refresher
So I was in Sears at the super clearance table and picked up a few USB-connect items. I was able to resist the disco ball because the last box was opened, but I picked up a mini-shredder and mini-refrigerator. They were never worth $40, but for $4 I wanted to try them.
The mini-shredder is fairly straightforward, but the mini-fridge has me puzzled. It a small plastic fridge about 8x4x3 inches. Inside is an led and a cutout for a can bottom. The cutout places the can on a solid aluminum or stainless steel heat sink that has been honeycombed. A small cooling fan at the bottom circulates room temperature air through the chambers. There is no coolant; it is all air cooled. How much cooler can this make a can of soda or beer than the ambient room temperature?
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Maybe its for cooling down a hot cup of ramen noodles? FIIK.
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I would expect that the heat generated by the fan's motor and, to a lesser extent, the friction from the air it moves would tend to heat the can up slightly faster. That said, keeping it in the small, enclosed space would tend to keep it cooler longer.
So I'd expect it to work better if you don't plug it in. But give it a try!
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It probably has a Peltier Junction, or other thermoelectric device, in the metal plate in the bottom.
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Now in a way that's what I'm thinking. The fan is probably a 20mm computer fan, and the heat sink is a lot like a CPU heat sink. I can understand it cooling something warmer than room temperature down as low as room temperature. But when I plug it in, it does appear that the circle becomes cool.
When I expect to have the computer on for a few hours, I will get a room temperature can of soda and experiment. All I see is the fan and the heat sink.
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If there's a Peltier Junction embedded in the plate, the heat sink and fan would probably increase its efficiency.
I know I'd heard of them before, but Peltiers didn't occur to me.
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Peltier coolers consist of the peltier element and a heatsink/fan combination to cool the TEC, which sounds like what you're describing. I guess you'll have to do the test to find out.
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I stand corrected. What I took for a solid block is actually two pieces with some kind of electrical device sandwiched between.
The great thing about spending only $4 on something is that I'm much less squeamish about disassembling it. I had to look up Peltier device. I guess this must be one since there is no heat pump.
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I have an Igloo around here that works that way. Reverse the plug and it heats. I used it in motels when working away from home.
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Someone gave me what looks like a drink coaster with a cord ending in a USB plug. It's supposed to keep cans cool. Never tried it,
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I have had several 12V coolers during my trucking days, and they keep things 40F cooler than ambient. They work on the same principle.
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inventions
Really....science can work out miracles. nice small invention. i like it.
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It's really nice that someone else has done the leg work and field tested it. Unfortunately, the review states that it would take an inordinate amount of time to cool a warm can.
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But you can get two cans from the fridge, and put one in the gadget. Two cans worth of ice-cold calories for one can's worth of exercise!
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