Mike Fisher, or why I turned my radio and TV off

vsp · 10-11-2002, 10:44 AM

Every Mike Fisher advertisement I've seen and heard so far has a very simple message:

taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes

Just for factual reference, are there any _other_ Mike Fisher commercials, and will it be safe to turn on my TV for purposes other than for PlayStation 2 games any time before mid-November?

elSicomoro · 10-11-2002, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by vsp
Just for factual reference, are there any _other_ Mike Fisher commercials, and will it be safe to turn on my TV for purposes other than for PlayStation 2 games any time before mid-November?

Surprisingly there are...one involves education...another involves his running mate, Jane Earll.

Fisher has made some gains, but Rendell still has a commanding lead. This campaign was basically over the day Rendell won the Dem primary anyway.

Griff · 10-11-2002, 10:53 AM

It speaks to me. Of course, I'm voting for the pot candidate.

perth · 10-11-2002, 11:03 AM

this is why i listen only to npr and turn on the tv only for dvds or video games. but those fuckers always find a way. my wife, whom i believe is a registered democrat, keeps getting these tacky-ass invitations to republican fundraiser dinners. one even threatened that the vp would be attending.

~james

Undertoad · 10-11-2002, 12:10 PM

People not in Pennsylvania are confused at this point. This is the Gubernatorial race we're talking about. It will be won by Ed Rendell, the Democrat. Mike Fisher is the current Attorney General running the attack campaign. Griff is voting for my buddy Kenny.

Kenny and I actually sat down last night and chatted about how stuff is going for him. He has the greatest campaign going for a third-party candidate since Jesse Ventura. If he had Jesse's name recognition, he would win. Since he doesn't, he has a shot at about 2%.

The Green Party candidate is a marvel of incompetence. They came up with a strategy of not attending any event where Rendell or Fisher are not in attendance. Their boy has turned down about 10 media events with the dismissal that it's "ghetto coverage". Those were the exact words he used to turn down WHYY-FM (thus foregoing a half-hour of talk coverage on the local public radio outlet with enormous coverage in the fourth largest media market in the country). Those were the words used to turn down the Urban League. Those will likely be the words used to turn down the NAACP. Wow.

elSicomoro · 10-11-2002, 12:31 PM

Your buddy got some interesting press coverage a few weeks back. They seemed to pass him off as a novelty in this campaign. (I believe it was during a debate where all the candidates were present.) As a whole though, it does seem like he has a pretty good campaign going.

The problem with the whole Ventura election and subsequent downfall is this: In the minds of many, this will only solidify the notion that politics are best left to the 2 main parties. It'll come across to many as arrogance and defiance of a "good system"...self-fulfilling prophecy to some.

I have no problem with voting for a third-party candidate, if I see one that appeals to me. I haven't seen one yet, but I'm sure one will come sooner or later.

tw · 10-11-2002, 12:58 PM

Mike Fisher got early 'good' press by establishing a database that keeps phone marketeers from calling your phone. But there appears to be no consequences to violating that data base. Slowly phone bank spammers are returning to PA - to use people's personal property to sell scams.

This 'lack of consequences' - will it become public knowledge before or after the Nov elections? Or will Mike Fisher do something about those violations of PA law?

SteveDallas · 10-11-2002, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Griff
It speaks to me. Of course, I'm voting for the pot candidate.

Hey, cool... is there a candidate in favor of privatizing the Liquor Control Board? I'll vote for 'em.

I hate the ads too. I'm spending more and more time with my CD/MP3 player in the car, and not ust because of those ads in particular. (Did you ever listen to Howard Stern? Or Opie and Anthony (RIP for now at least)? I'm not a regular listener, but I've turned them on sometimes. Regardless of whether you like their shtick, it's very hard not to notice that about 50% of the airtime is commercials. I once turned on Stern on the way to work and listened to nothing but commericals from 8:40 to 9:00.) I even have to pick on WRTI... I always seem to be turning them on just in time to get their news updates... sorry, RTI, but if I want to hear news I'll listen to WHYY or KYW. I'd appreciate being able to turn on a music station and listen to music.

And satellite radio is looking better... if the receivers get closer to $100, I may take a flyer on one. (Though even there, one of the services has some channels that carry commercials.)

Undertoad · 10-11-2002, 05:16 PM

Kenny would be vehemently anti-LCB, and I'm not just saying that.

Griff · 10-11-2002, 06:54 PM

My listening habits put me in closer touch with the NY Pataki-McCall-Galisano debacle. I hope Kens commercials are more professional than Galisanos (not a lib just an ego-maniac). He's playing the upstate vs downstate card but not even very well. His commercial has Binghamton dubbed into it and lists a bunch of Rochester companies that have gone toes up during Patakis term while ignoring the list from the Bing area.

I've been watching Kens progress via libernet and have been impressed by his willingness to meet and greet all comers and his straight forward answers to questions. Its a damn shame he won't poll major numbers but he could do well, since so many Republicans have already written off Fisher.

MaggieL · 10-11-2002, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
People not in Pennsylvania are confused at this point. This is the Gubernatorial race we're talking about. It will be won by Ed Rendell, the Democrat. Mike Fisher is the current Attorney General running the attack campaign. Griff is voting for my buddy Kenny.

Ken will be coming to the next Delaware Valley Pink Pistols get-togther on the 19th. Should be interesting; we're expecting a crew from the local Fox affiliate, too...they're not coming to see Ken, they just happened to ask to come talk to us on the same day. Last month it was a reporter from the Courier-Times.

MaggieL · 10-11-2002, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by vsp
Every Mike Fisher advertisement I've seen and heard so far has a very simple message:taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes

Rendell *will* raise our taxes. Do you really think he'll do anything good with our money? He's also in bed with the gun prohibitionists, but is too slick to talk openly about that during the campaign, knowing it will hurt him outside Philadelphia and Pittsburgh..

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/...on/3410712.htm

vsp · 10-11-2002, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by kbarger
(Did you ever listen to Howard Stern? Or Opie and Anthony (RIP for now at least)? I'm not a regular listener, but I've turned them on sometimes. Regardless of whether you like their shtick, it's very hard not to notice that about 50% of the airtime is commercials. I once turned on Stern on the way to work and listened to nothing but commericals from 8:40 to 9:00.)

Yep, Infinity stations are notorious for loading their talk-format shows with commercials. I was a regular O&A listener, and they'd have ten-minute blocks filled with ads for all sorts of oddball products, and joke about it when they got back on the air.

(O&A _will_ be back, sooner or later. They still have a huge fan base, and since that fan base wasn't the group offended by the Sex-for-Sam 3 stunt, someone will put them back on the air eventually to exploit that fan base. I call it the Marion Barry Reelection Principle.)

MaggieL · 10-12-2002, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by kbarger
Hey, cool... is there a candidate in favor of privatizing the Liquor Control Board? I'll vote for 'em.

Fisher has a proposal to sell off the State Stores, with the proceeds going for special ed. I don't think you'd ever see Rendell pee in the union's Wheaties like that.

I'm sure KenK would do something similar were he ever to be elected. He's the candidate whose philosophy really matches up with mine on a bunch of major issues at once....gay rights *and* the right to self-defense, for example.

Mixing just those two issues makes me demographically marginalized, I can't really vote for *any* of the candidates without feeling, as Tom Leher so eloquently put it, "like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis". Rendell's a tax-and-spend gun-grabber with no cred on state-level issues, Fisher seems RKBA-friendly but his constituency hates queers. KenK is a true believer but would be ecstatic to break into double digits at the polls.

MaggieL · 10-12-2002, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by tw
This 'lack of consequences' - will it become public knowledge before or after the Nov elections? Or will Mike Fisher do something about those violations of PA law?

I've noticed a <b>massive</b> reducton in telemarketing calls since the list was started. But if I recall, the list is on a quarterly update cycle, if you didn't enroll the minute the website went up you may not have made it out to the list yet.

The consequences for each violation are a $1000 fine. Have you filed a complaint?

10-11-2002, 10:44 AM	#1
vsp Syndrome of a Down Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West Chester Posts: 1,367	Mike Fisher, or why I turned my radio and TV off Every Mike Fisher advertisement I've seen and heard so far has a very simple message: taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes taxes taxes Rendell will raise your taxes taxes Just for factual reference, are there any _other_ Mike Fisher commercials, and will it be safe to turn on my TV for purposes other than for PlayStation 2 games any time before mid-November?

10-11-2002, 10:53 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	It speaks to me. Of course, I'm voting for the pot candidate. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

10-11-2002, 06:54 PM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	My listening habits put me in closer touch with the NY Pataki-McCall-Galisano debacle. I hope Kens commercials are more professional than Galisanos (not a lib just an ego-maniac). He's playing the upstate vs downstate card but not even very well. His commercial has Binghamton dubbed into it and lists a bunch of Rochester companies that have gone toes up during Patakis term while ignoring the list from the Bing area. I've been watching Kens progress via libernet and have been impressed by his willingness to meet and greet all comers and his straight forward answers to questions. Its a damn shame he won't poll major numbers but he could do well, since so many Republicans have already written off Fisher. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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10-11-2002, 11:03 AM	#4
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	this is why i listen only to npr and turn on the tv only for dvds or video games. but those fuckers always find a way. my wife, whom i believe is a registered democrat, keeps getting these tacky-ass invitations to republican fundraiser dinners. one even threatened that the vp would be attending. ~james

10-11-2002, 12:10 PM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	People not in Pennsylvania are confused at this point. This is the Gubernatorial race we're talking about. It will be won by Ed Rendell, the Democrat. Mike Fisher is the current Attorney General running the attack campaign. Griff is voting for my buddy Kenny. Kenny and I actually sat down last night and chatted about how stuff is going for him. He has the greatest campaign going for a third-party candidate since Jesse Ventura. If he had Jesse's name recognition, he would win. Since he doesn't, he has a shot at about 2%. The Green Party candidate is a marvel of incompetence. They came up with a strategy of not attending any event where Rendell or Fisher are not in attendance. Their boy has turned down about 10 media events with the dismissal that it's "ghetto coverage". Those were the exact words he used to turn down WHYY-FM (thus foregoing a half-hour of talk coverage on the local public radio outlet with enormous coverage in the fourth largest media market in the country). Those were the words used to turn down the Urban League. Those will likely be the words used to turn down the NAACP. Wow.

10-11-2002, 12:31 PM	#6
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Your buddy got some interesting press coverage a few weeks back. They seemed to pass him off as a novelty in this campaign. (I believe it was during a debate where all the candidates were present.) As a whole though, it does seem like he has a pretty good campaign going. The problem with the whole Ventura election and subsequent downfall is this: In the minds of many, this will only solidify the notion that politics are best left to the 2 main parties. It'll come across to many as arrogance and defiance of a "good system"...self-fulfilling prophecy to some. I have no problem with voting for a third-party candidate, if I see one that appeals to me. I haven't seen one yet, but I'm sure one will come sooner or later.

10-11-2002, 12:58 PM	#7
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Mike Fisher got early 'good' press by establishing a database that keeps phone marketeers from calling your phone. But there appears to be no consequences to violating that data base. Slowly phone bank spammers are returning to PA - to use people's personal property to sell scams. This 'lack of consequences' - will it become public knowledge before or after the Nov elections? Or will Mike Fisher do something about those violations of PA law?

10-11-2002, 05:16 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Kenny would be vehemently anti-LCB, and I'm not just saying that.

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