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evansk7 · 07-19-2004, 08:56 AM

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with a bit of luck the lib dems will condemn the tories to the garbage bin of history come next year, one can only hope(and vote).

I'd rather see the Lib Dems condemn Labour to the bin... but it's unlikely to happen. At least the Tories have the decency to run under their own banner, unlike Labour who've decided to be the Tories (only worse) and run under the banner of Labour.

A tory/lib dem parliament would suit me just fine - right-of-centre capitalism tories, tempered by the socially responsible Lib Dems. I'm damned if I can think of a single thing I like about Labour...

But alas, I'm just one man and have just one vote, and that's not a lot compared to the staunch Labour voter who just won't accept that Neil Kinnock isn't pulling the strings of the party anymore.

Ah well.

jaguar · 07-19-2004, 08:59 AM

At least a lib dem opposition would force the government to do something, innovative policies in opposition might force them to take a position more advanced than 'well we don't suck as much as the tories, even if we do lie and deepthroat bush'.

evansk7 · 07-19-2004, 09:12 AM

We don't have innovative policies in opposition, as a matter of policy.

For as long as I can remember (which isn't, admittedly, that long) our opposition appears to have been duty-bound to say "Nay, nay" a lot and oppose everything. But helpfulness appears to be outside of their remit.

Our political system sucks almost as much as our weather.

jaguar · 07-19-2004, 09:21 AM

The lib dems have some good policies, if they do become opposition it'll be a breath of fresh air. I'm about to move over to London on a permanant basis so I'm taking more of an interest in British politics.

I think i'm simply more cynical than you on the nature of democracy.

Catwoman · 07-19-2004, 10:22 AM

Why are you moving to London? I only live an hour away. We should meet for cocktails, darling.

DanaC · 07-19-2004, 10:26 AM

The trouble with PR Catwoman is that it would allow the 6 - 7 % fascist vote to gain a foothold in the parliamentary system. You only have to look at France and then consider our own BNP to see that PR would be ultimately potentially dangerous. .....It would also allow the far left a voice and likewise the greens, but I would willingly do without that benefit in order to prevent the BNP / NF getting a voice in national government. Bad enough that they keep getting council seats.

evansk7 · 07-19-2004, 10:40 AM

And not only why are you moving to London, but how on earth did you manage to slip past our border protection undetected? You're european - you could have rabies or anything!

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London? I only live an hour away.

Doesn't everyone?

Undertoad · 07-19-2004, 10:52 AM

It's worse than that Ev - dude is stralian!

jaguar · 07-19-2004, 10:59 AM

London College Of Communication (was the college of Printing when I started filling out forms, which I much preferred), so I can become a certified opinionated tosser rather than just a freelancing amatur.

Evan, I'm Swiss and British, with Aussie to boot so it's rabid and bad teeth, mate.

Catwoman: diabolus fecit, ut id facerem! I'm up for cocktails, hell we've almost got enough people here for a decent sized get-together.

Undertoad · 07-19-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jaguar

ut id facerem

Hey, no name calling! I never use that kind of language about you!

jaguar · 07-19-2004, 11:06 AM

interfice te cum cochleare

evansk7 · 07-19-2004, 11:11 AM

Swiss, Australian and British. Wow. What a combination.

Toblerone on the barbie and a warm beer, anyone?

Catwoman · 07-19-2004, 11:21 AM

Jag - stultus est licut stultus facit!

Evan - er, no. They don't.

Dana - I suppose it's better to mute any marginalist vote, far left or far right. How else do you please the majority?

evansk7 · 07-19-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Catwoman

Evan - er, no. They don't.

Well, I guess technically there's the Scots. And the Welsh. And the various Cornish peoples. And anyone that lives around Heathrow and is unfortunate enough to commute to work in the City in a car.

But there's certainly a LOT of people who do, especially depending on how you draw the line at what constitutes "London", and the rest really just aren't trying hard enough.

And please, call me Kev. If I'd given it a moment's thought when I signed up, I wouldn't have used an old university login based on surname + first initial + number and would've instead picked something that didn't result in me gaining a welsh-sounding nickname.

jaguar · 07-19-2004, 11:23 AM

Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris

07-19-2004, 08:59 AM	#2
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	At least a lib dem opposition would force the government to do something, innovative policies in opposition might force them to take a position more advanced than 'well we don't suck as much as the tories, even if we do lie and deepthroat bush'. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-19-2004, 09:21 AM	#4
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	The lib dems have some good policies, if they do become opposition it'll be a breath of fresh air. I'm about to move over to London on a permanant basis so I'm taking more of an interest in British politics. I think i'm simply more cynical than you on the nature of democracy. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-19-2004, 10:22 AM	#5
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	Why are you moving to London? I only live an hour away. We should meet for cocktails, darling. __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

07-19-2004, 10:59 AM	#9
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	London College Of Communication (was the college of Printing when I started filling out forms, which I much preferred), so I can become a certified opinionated tosser rather than just a freelancing amatur. Evan, I'm Swiss and British, with Aussie to boot so it's rabid and bad teeth, mate. Catwoman: diabolus fecit, ut id facerem! I'm up for cocktails, hell we've almost got enough people here for a decent sized get-together. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-19-2004, 11:06 AM	#11
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	interfice te cum cochleare __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-19-2004, 09:12 AM	#3
evansk7 Disorderly Orderly Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 54	We don't have innovative policies in opposition, as a matter of policy. For as long as I can remember (which isn't, admittedly, that long) our opposition appears to have been duty-bound to say "Nay, nay" a lot and oppose everything. But helpfulness appears to be outside of their remit. Our political system sucks almost as much as our weather.

07-19-2004, 10:26 AM	#6
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	The trouble with PR Catwoman is that it would allow the 6 - 7 % fascist vote to gain a foothold in the parliamentary system. You only have to look at France and then consider our own BNP to see that PR would be ultimately potentially dangerous. .....It would also allow the far left a voice and likewise the greens, but I would willingly do without that benefit in order to prevent the BNP / NF getting a voice in national government. Bad enough that they keep getting council seats.

07-19-2004, 10:52 AM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It's worse than that Ev - dude is stralian!

07-19-2004, 11:11 AM	#12
evansk7 Disorderly Orderly Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 54	Swiss, Australian and British. Wow. What a combination. Toblerone on the barbie and a warm beer, anyone?

07-19-2004, 11:21 AM	#13
Catwoman stalking a Tom Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: on the edge of the english channel Posts: 1,000	Jag - stultus est licut stultus facit! Evan - er, no. They don't. Dana - I suppose it's better to mute any marginalist vote, far left or far right. How else do you please the majority? __________________ I've decided I'm not going to have a signature anymore.

07-19-2004, 11:23 AM	#15
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

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