Critique of Black Culture

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sycamore

We know that there are more blacks than whites in prisons (source), but then we'd have to factor in probations, suspended sentences, etc. I'd say whites outnumber blacks in the end, but blacks are disproportionately represented.

I have a feeling that minorities are involved more with the crimes that have been targeted for stiff sentencing. Of course those crimes may have been targeted because of minority involvement.

[wolf]

The FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2000 has a lot of numbers.

Because they have chosen to release it as a .pdf file, it's a pain in the ass to reference specific pages ...

What we are looking at here is Section IV Persons Arrested

Head directly for Table 43 Arrests by Race 2000.

Looking at just the aggregate number of arrests for all index crimes, we find that there are 72.1 % of whites arrested, 25.1% of blacks.

The 2000 Census informs us that 77.1% of persons reported as white, and 12.9% reported as black.

I'm not getting into any complex statistical transforms here ... just looking at the raw percentages.

I'm trying to find a good way to phrase this and keep coming up short ... basically what I'm getting from this is that whites are offending proportionaly to their percentage of population, while blacks are committing (or getting caught committing crimes) at a much higher rate, in fact about twice the rate that would be expected if all other factors were equal.

(on the UCRs it is interesting to see the varience overall in the racial breakdown in the commission of certain types of crimes ... blacks and whites murder at nearly equal rates, but whites are more likely to perpetrate forcible rape, vandalism, arson, DUI, fraud, embezzlement, and forgery, among others.

Blacks lead in robbery, gambling, and have a probably statistically insignificant lead in murder and manslaughter.)

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I have a feeling that minorities are involved more with the crimes that have been targeted for stiff sentencing. Of course those crimes may have been targeted because of minority involvement.

White collar crime is handled in such a way that much less time as a whole is spent in prison. I'm betting that that goes a long way towards skewing the in prison representation of of whites versus minorities.

Additionally, money makes a case much easier to get pled off or successfully fought.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Watching white people try to discuss black culture is funny.

Why? Because they actually give it more study than its participants?

[lookout123]

white people talking about conditions in minority communities = ignorance, racism, or both.

members of minority groups discussing white people = witty social commentary.

[russotto]

Well, you can hardly write a critique of white American culture, because as everyone knows, that's a contradiction in terms.

[lookout123]

touche

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by russotto

Well, you can hardly write a critique of white American culture, because as everyone knows, that's a contradiction in terms.

Afraid not, WAC is actually the plagerized and remarketed aggregate of all of the other cultures it comes in touch with. Why do you think the french are trying to keep it out of france?

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by lookout123

white people talking about conditions in minority communities = ignorance, racism, or both.

Quite possible.

members of minority groups discussing white people = witty social commentary.

Not necessarily...let me fix your equation for you:

sycamore discussing any and all people = always witty social commentary

[lookout123]

yeah, you and dave chappelle.

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by sycamore
Watching white people try to discuss black culture is funny.

It sure is.

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Why? Because they actually give it more study than its participants?

You'd be amazed at what black folks are talking about these days (and I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of people here wouldn't like it one bit).

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by ladysycamore

You'd be amazed at what black folks are talking about these days (and I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of people here wouldn't like it one bit).

Then clue us in. Otherwise what's your point?

[ladysycamore]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Then clue us in. Otherwise what's your point?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ack+talk+radio

Pick one and "study".

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Why? Because they actually give it more study than its participants?

Are you saying that this is the case? I certainly hope not, because--while it could be true based on sheer numbers--the chances of you being able to back up such a statement aren't very good.

I find watching white people try to discuss black culture funny because I believe that the vast majority of white people are ignorant about black culture. Though white people tend to be incredibly good at talking about things of which they have next to no knowledge.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Are you saying that this is the case? I certainly hope not, because--while it could be true based on sheer numbers--the chances of you being able to back up such a statement aren't very good.

Not really, more a case of an assinine response to an assinine remark.

Originally Posted by sycamore

I find watching white people try to discuss black culture funny because I believe that the vast majority of white people are ignorant about black culture. Though white people tend to be incredibly good at talking about things of which they have next to no knowledge.

I find watching black people try to discuss white culture funny because I believe that the vast majority of black people are ignorant about white culture. Though black people tend to be incredibly good at talking about things of which they have next to no knowledge.