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Old 08-11-2005, 05:05 PM   #1
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I never said Congress would actually complain about being lied to. That would be optimistic talk.
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Old 08-11-2005, 08:37 PM   #2
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Basically, Europe said to Iran, "If you stop all uranium enrichment, and allow UN inspections, we will give you enough radioactive fuel to operate nuclear power plants."

Iran's answer is to say no, and restart enrichment. The next step is at the UN Security Council.
Well, we know where that will go. But playing the Devil's Advocate, perhaps Iran's government would rather have nuclear power in their own right than to be dependent on Europe, even for free.
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Old 08-11-2005, 10:51 PM   #3
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Everyone agrees it's quite understandable. What gives the responsible people the sour stomachs and the night sweats is who the mullahs are in bed with.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:29 PM   #4
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Everyone agrees it's quite understandable. What gives the responsible people the sour stomachs and the night sweats is who the mullahs are in bed with.
The Radical Christian Right?
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:00 AM   #5
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Oh, have you ever heard of a Radical etcetera that doesn't want Iran's mullahs decorating lampposts? At least a little bit?
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Old 08-22-2005, 02:49 PM   #6
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1 August 2005 : According to The American Conservative (by Patrick Buchanan) : Cheney’s staff is now planning a nuclear attack against Iran that would follow an important attack against the USA (like 911). The responsible of this program is Ralph E. Eberhart (already responsible of air defence (NORAD) during the 911 : Thanks to this « succes » he was named chief commandant of the Northcom).

Imagination or reality ?
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:07 PM   #7
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...CE0E9957EA.htm

Iran's President calls for Israel to be "wiped off the map":

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"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini.

His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication...
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:18 PM   #8
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I think we should give the Isrealites a good part of Oregon. Then, they'd be safe and Oregon might get a little much needed culture.
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:43 PM   #9
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We've basically given them New York--more Jews already live in NY than in all of Israel. Arguments of who's right or wrong aside, I think the Israelis should just get the hell out of there. But then again, I don't require specific land, buildings, or symbols to support my faith.
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:43 AM   #10
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Iran "took it back" after the security council and almost all major governments condemned their statements:
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Iran has moved to soften the impact of remarks by its president that Israel should be "wiped off the map", saying it stood by its U.N. commitments and would not use violence against another country.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran is committed to its U.N. charter commitments. It has never used force against a second country or threatened the use of force," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement Saturday.
But not all the way back:
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Friday evening, the U.N. Security Council condemned the comments by Iran's president but did not say if the world body planned any action against Iran.

In a written statement, the council pointed out that all members of the United Nations "have undertaken to refrain from the threat or use of force against ... any state."

In its own statement Saturday, the Iranian foreign ministry hit out at the U.N., saying: "The statement by the president of the U.N. Security Council was proposed by the Zionist regime to close the eyes to its crimes and to change the facts, therefore it is not acceptable."
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:21 PM   #11
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In a written statement, the council pointed out that all members of the United Nations "have undertaken to refrain from the threat or use of force against ... any state."
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Israel's U.N. ambassador, Dan Gillerman,....snip......"I certainly think that a country whose head of state calls for the destruction of any other member state of the United Nations does not deserve a seat in this very civilized organization."
Does that include the USA?
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:27 PM   #12
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Nihilism is in.

Let Iran attack Israel. Israel responds, and then maybe one thing leads to another and we've got a whole lot of new glowing glass. Then we slant-drill for less-radioactive oil from the nearest upwind area.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:24 AM   #13
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Israel isn't first on their list.

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com...seen-this.html
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:09 AM   #14
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I could care less if Iran has nuclear bombs. Merely having them does not make them a threat to us. It seems these days the only way America won't invade another country without justifiable cause is if they actually have nukes. Neither Iran, or any other nation on earth requires the permission of America or the UN to develop any weapons they choose.
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:48 AM   #15
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Here's another view of Iran. It may surprize you.
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