Saint Ratprick's Day

footfootfoot · 03-08-2006, 04:09 PM

In honor of Saint Patrick's day I want to corn a beef myself. I've no idea how to go about it. Anyone out there got any sugg's?

The beer, cabbage and spuds I am ACE at.

:cheers:

binky · 03-08-2006, 04:33 PM

I found this recipe-not sure where to get the Mortons Tender Quick it calls for but maybe the Morton salt website would give a location http://www.leeners.com/meatcure.html

fargon · 03-08-2006, 04:45 PM

I think I have seen Tender Quick at both Quillins and Wal-Mart. Your local Lardge grocery store should have it, or a custom Butcher. When,s Dinner?

Betty Crocker has a recepie

dar512 · 03-08-2006, 05:01 PM

I looked into it a while ago. It's a non-trivial task. Unless you're planning on making a lot (8 lbs or more), I don't think it's worth it.

03-08-2006, 07:10 PM

I seem to remember coming across a recipe for it in an older edition of the Joy of Cooking. As I recall, it might be worth the while of an Irish mother of 14 or if you are having 20 or so members of the IRA dropping by to celebrate, otherwise, too much work for me!

I could help you out with a recipe for Italian spagetti sauce that my Welsh Corgi seems to enjoy, and I also have a recipe for Irish coffee that uses Kentucky bourbon.

footfootfoot · 03-08-2006, 07:46 PM

I found a USDA website and something at wikipedia. it seems that it is just brine cured bef with a little bit of seasoning. The potassium nitrate (saltpeter) is just to keep it pink.

I'm debating the KNO3 (?) grey versus pink. "same great taste, new look"

Three weeks is the required time for curing, so this may need to wait till next year.

richlevy · 03-08-2006, 08:02 PM

Epicurious has a pretty detailed recipe. Make sure to read the comments, and you will find this.

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Excellant dish! Used Guinness in the water to simmer, then finished in the oven with bourbon (apologies for not having Irish whiskey) and mustard glaze.I cooked the potatoes and cabbage in the brisket water. Very flavorful. Have found that the leftover broth makes an excellant base for French onion soup. Just add sliced sweet onions and slow cook for a few hours. Serve with toasted croutons and melted Swiss or Gruyere cheese.

wolf · 03-08-2006, 10:20 PM

I am going to a not-wedding for Genocidal Maniac Day this year.

I am hoping that the not-bride and not-groom do not insist on green beer and all that crap.

dar512 · 03-09-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Genocidal Maniac Day

St. Patrick was genocidal?

Trilby · 03-09-2006, 01:21 PM

He made all the good, happy pagans into misreable, guilt-ridden Christians.

03-09-2006, 01:54 PM

He also chased the snake (a happy and useful creature) out of Ireland.

barefoot serpent · 03-09-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

He also chased the snake (a happy and useful creature) out of Ireland.

/hisses: bassssstard!

Kozmique · 03-13-2006, 04:25 AM

I offended my best friend by offering to buy the corned beef this year because I have given up eating conventionally farmed meat and food processed with nitrates, and now he is upset that his food's not good enough for me anymore. What? I said I'd buy it and I'll cook it too! Nobody complained when I cooked up all the side dishes for our Cajun Christmas using nitrate free bacon and organic veggies, in fact they were a big hit! I'm not sure why we celebrate this holiday anyway since no one in either of our families is Irish, but I guess it's just another excuse to drink.

jinx · 03-13-2006, 09:49 AM

I hear ya Koz, I did something similar at xmas.
We had friends over for dinner and I made a rib roast - only because I had one on the freezer. It was "my share" of one of the beef cows my uncle is experimenting with at the farm. Organic, grass fed, yadda yadda (pictured here, one of the red guys). I'd never made one before but it came out great.

We went to LJ's mom's the next night for dinner and I told her how awsome the roast was and how it was so nice to have beef without being all freaked out about conventional beef related nasties (she has graciously put up with me not eating beef or most anything else she cooks for many years). And btw, what's for dinner? Oh, a rib roast...

I pulled out a rump roast and a giant sirloin from the second cow to give to my brother in law in exchange for his plumbing services yesterday, and he just laughed. "Oh, is this your fancy snob-cow-better-than-my-mothers beef?"
Gah....

Trilby · 03-13-2006, 02:12 PM

jinxie-pooh? That's the price one pays for wearing cashmere argyle socks! Seriously, though, I would think they would like to at least compare! i've found that organic veggies are waaaaay better than not. Kobe beef is heaven, too. Maybe they are jealous?

03-08-2006, 04:09 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Saint Ratprick's Day In honor of Saint Patrick's day I want to corn a beef myself. I've no idea how to go about it. Anyone out there got any sugg's? The beer, cabbage and spuds I am ACE at. :cheers: __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-08-2006, 04:45 PM	#3
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	I think I have seen Tender Quick at both Quillins and Wal-Mart. Your local Lardge grocery store should have it, or a custom Butcher. When,s Dinner? Betty Crocker has a recepie __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind. Last edited by fargon; 03-08-2006 at 04:47 PM.

03-08-2006, 05:01 PM	#4
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	I looked into it a while ago. It's a non-trivial task. Unless you're planning on making a lot (8 lbs or more), I don't think it's worth it. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

03-08-2006, 07:10 PM	#5
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	I seem to remember coming across a recipe for it in an older edition of the Joy of Cooking. As I recall, it might be worth the while of an Irish mother of 14 or if you are having 20 or so members of the IRA dropping by to celebrate, otherwise, too much work for me! I could help you out with a recipe for Italian spagetti sauce that my Welsh Corgi seems to enjoy, and I also have a recipe for Irish coffee that uses Kentucky bourbon. Last edited by marichiko; 03-08-2006 at 07:18 PM.

03-08-2006, 07:46 PM	#6
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I found a USDA website and something at wikipedia. it seems that it is just brine cured bef with a little bit of seasoning. The potassium nitrate (saltpeter) is just to keep it pink. I'm debating the KNO3 (?) grey versus pink. "same great taste, new look" Three weeks is the required time for curing, so this may need to wait till next year. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-08-2006, 04:33 PM	#2
binky all hollowed out Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ridgecrest, CA Posts: 982	I found this recipe-not sure where to get the Mortons Tender Quick it calls for but maybe the Morton salt website would give a location http://www.leeners.com/meatcure.html

03-08-2006, 10:20 PM	#8
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I am going to a not-wedding for Genocidal Maniac Day this year. I am hoping that the not-bride and not-groom do not insist on green beer and all that crap. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-09-2006, 01:21 PM	#10
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	He made all the good, happy pagans into misreable, guilt-ridden Christians. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-09-2006, 01:54 PM	#11
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	He also chased the snake (a happy and useful creature) out of Ireland.

03-13-2006, 04:25 AM	#13
Kozmique Pirate Queen Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Under the black flag Posts: 55	I offended my best friend by offering to buy the corned beef this year because I have given up eating conventionally farmed meat and food processed with nitrates, and now he is upset that his food's not good enough for me anymore. What? I said I'd buy it and I'll cook it too! Nobody complained when I cooked up all the side dishes for our Cajun Christmas using nitrate free bacon and organic veggies, in fact they were a big hit! I'm not sure why we celebrate this holiday anyway since no one in either of our families is Irish, but I guess it's just another excuse to drink. __________________ Language is a virus from outer space

03-13-2006, 09:49 AM	#14
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I hear ya Koz, I did something similar at xmas. We had friends over for dinner and I made a rib roast - only because I had one on the freezer. It was "my share" of one of the beef cows my uncle is experimenting with at the farm. Organic, grass fed, yadda yadda (pictured here, one of the red guys). I'd never made one before but it came out great. We went to LJ's mom's the next night for dinner and I told her how awsome the roast was and how it was so nice to have beef without being all freaked out about conventional beef related nasties (she has graciously put up with me not eating beef or most anything else she cooks for many years). And btw, what's for dinner? Oh, a rib roast... I pulled out a rump roast and a giant sirloin from the second cow to give to my brother in law in exchange for his plumbing services yesterday, and he just laughed. "Oh, is this your fancy snob-cow-better-than-my-mothers beef?" Gah.... __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

03-13-2006, 02:12 PM	#15
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	jinxie-pooh? That's the price one pays for wearing cashmere argyle socks! Seriously, though, I would think they would like to at least compare! i've found that organic veggies are waaaaay better than not. Kobe beef is heaven, too. Maybe they are jealous? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

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