John Kerry taking dubious page from Howard Dean's book - Page 6

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-03-2006, 08:42 PM

Monkey, the short answer, and the only one I feel like giving, is that the "real Democratic view" isn't worth holding.

The very last Democratic candidate I was wholly in favor of was Lyndon Baines Johnson.

I was in the third grade.

Furthermore, Sen. Kerry has worked very publicly in the interest of America's foes, whomever they be, all his political life. This latest utterance is no aberration, it is the man's core. If any of America's enemies seek at least a bit of comfort, they should apply to Mr. Kerry. What a fuckin' scrub.

Happy Monkey · 11-03-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Monkey, the short answer, and the only one I feel like giving, is that the "real Democratic view" isn't worth holding.

No, it is. But you aren't worth convincing.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-06-2006, 10:23 PM

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No, it is. But you aren't worth convincing.

It is not, and I am.

If you actually possessed some of the superiority you're claiming, you wouldn't try and fob things off with an excuse. You are, I believe, now fairly well acquainted with me and my views. How might you go about convincing a skeptic?

You, my friend, are not only a liar, you are lazy also. Now meet my challenge or do like tw does, and run.

If yours is the best available example of the Democratic argument, a whole passel of you could stand some enlightenment.

Ibby · 11-03-2006, 09:44 PM

Well it looks like Mr. UG was actually half-smart once... In the third grade.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-04-2006, 12:55 AM

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Well it looks like Mr. UG was actually half-smart once... In the third grade.

He said once before he had set his opinions and course in life by the time he was 10 years old. That's why he thinks and acts like a 10 year old.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-06-2006, 10:30 PM

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He said once before he had set his opinions and course in life by the time he was 10 years old. That's why he thinks and acts like a 10 year old.

Bruce, I'll have to fault you for your reading comprehension. I do recall saying I wasn't fooled by Communist propaganda the way people twice my age clearly were, at circa 10 years of age, yes.

I think more flexibly than you do, Bruce, for I can recognize and acknowledge you when you get something right, such as the gun issue, where we are on the same side of the divide. This is thinking like a 10-year-old? Bruce, oh dear.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-08-2006, 04:19 PM

I keep telling you there is no divide....no black and white. Every issue has multiple points of view.....10 year olds don't understand that.

Aliantha · 11-03-2006, 09:47 PM

Poor UG...

BigV · 11-08-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

It is not, and I am.

If you actually possessed some of the superiority you're claiming, you wouldn't try and fob things off with an excuse. You are, I believe, now fairly well acquainted with me and my views. How might you go about convincing a skeptic?

You, my friend, are not only a liar, you are lazy also. Now meet my challenge or do like tw does, and run.

If yours is the best available example of the Democratic argument, a whole passel of you could stand some enlightenment.

That's just it. You're not a skeptic. You're a believer. You believe you're right and all others are wrong. There's no convincing you.

There have been numerous, countless posts that contribute to persuading someone who has an open mind, but that's not you. You're not interested in learning anything. Your mind is closed. There is no teaching you.

I came to this conclusion long ago:

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Hey, really, I'm not talking to you to persuade you. I have long since concluded that your mind, which may or may not be open, is so firmly sealed up your butt that nothing can get in. Fine. You're more useful as a negative example anyway.

Really long ago.

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UG, I do not accept you as my pupil. You do not posess the proper attitude. If you learn anything from me, it is to your credit and you'll be better for it, but I decline to take responsibility to teach you the error of your ways. Should your attitude and your ability to think clearly improve, you may petition again. In the meantime, you have a LOT of work to do and I leave you to it.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-09-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

That's just it. You're not a skeptic. You're a believer. You believe you're right and all others are wrong. There's no convincing you.

There have been numerous, countless posts that contribute to persuading someone who has an open mind, but that's not you. You're not interested in learning anything. Your mind is closed. There is no teaching you.

If your ideas, and others I've rejected in this forum, were actually good enough to persuade me they were not shoddy goods intellectually, then I'd be interested in learning them. Until then, what is there to do?

To teach me, show me wisdom. There's not been enough of that.

I have strength enough to hold ideas that are unpopular with you.

Ibby · 11-10-2006, 01:16 AM

You mean show you right-wing, prejudiced, eyes-closed garbage?

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-10-2006, 01:15 PM

Ibram, go outside and play some hoops or something, okay? You're being tedious and immature.

Flint · 11-10-2006, 02:36 PM

God, you're a dick. Is this an alter ego?

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-10-2006, 10:31 PM

Ibram's a bright kid, and I value him for his intelligence. But when he tries to bait me, I remind him that he's not in my weight class -- though he has every chance of developing that far assuming he doesn't fall under the wheels of a bus.

He can't bait me, but he can bore me.

Spexxvet · 11-14-2006, 09:12 AM

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... I remind him that he's not in my weight class -- ...

Light weight?
Waiting tables?
10 pounds of sand pounded up your ass?

11-03-2006, 08:42 PM	#1
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Monkey, the short answer, and the only one I feel like giving, is that the "real Democratic view" isn't worth holding. The very last Democratic candidate I was wholly in favor of was Lyndon Baines Johnson. I was in the third grade. Furthermore, Sen. Kerry has worked very publicly in the interest of America's foes, whomever they be, all his political life. This latest utterance is no aberration, it is the man's core. If any of America's enemies seek at least a bit of comfort, they should apply to Mr. Kerry. What a fuckin' scrub. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Well it looks like Mr. UG was actually half-smart once... In the third grade. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-08-2006, 04:19 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I keep telling you there is no divide....no black and white. Every issue has multiple points of view.....10 year olds don't understand that. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Poor UG... __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	You mean show you right-wing, prejudiced, eyes-closed garbage? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-10-2006, 01:15 PM	#12
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Ibram, go outside and play some hoops or something, okay? You're being tedious and immature. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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11-10-2006, 10:31 PM	#14
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Ibram's a bright kid, and I value him for his intelligence. But when he tries to bait me, I remind him that he's not in my weight class -- though he has every chance of developing that far assuming he doesn't fall under the wheels of a bus. He can't bait me, but he can bore me. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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