Imus and Nappy-headed-ho's - Page 2

BigV · 04-12-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

-blah blah blah-- we want to nail a radio host to a cross, who I really can't stand, for the same protected speech. Ha!

What "we" wants to crucify Imus? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Why do you object to a business decision? Do you think protected speech equals protected job? You don't strike me as the Union type, and Imus less so. Should those bushel baskets of tax dollars you paid be used by the government to pay for Imus' salary since he's not the moneymaker MSNBC thinks he should be? Who should be in charge of deciding if he may stay employed?

TheMercenary · 04-12-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

What "we" wants to crucify Imus? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Why do you object to a business decision? Do you think protected speech equals protected job? You don't strike me as the Union type, and Imus less so. Should those bushel baskets of tax dollars you paid be used by the government to pay for Imus' salary since he's not the moneymaker MSNBC thinks he should be? Who should be in charge of deciding if he may stay employed?

The business decision was based upon a PC fear of a backlash by the organizations with the loudest voices among those who are trying to exploit this event for race baiting reasons, instead of letting the parties involved deal with the issue. But no, suddenly we have all these other parties getting involved in an attempt to exploit this as something larger than it is. The women of the Rutgers team are not defined by the statements of some idiot on a radio show. So much more is being made of this. The sooner people stop blaming others for their current situations the sooner people will advance on their own merits regardless of color. It is prison culture that is being advanced. There is no magical mythical white man keeping anyone down.

footfootfoot · 04-12-2007, 11:23 PM

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BigV · 04-12-2007, 11:31 PM

A business responding to its customer's preferences. No story here, move on people.

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The sooner people stop blaming others for their current situations the sooner people will advance on their own merits regardless of color.

Shit, now you got me all confused. Who's side are you on again?!?

TheMercenary · 04-12-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

A business responding to its customer's preferences. No story here, move on people.

Shit, now you got me all confused. Who's side are you on again?!?

I don't support what Imus said, other than from a free speech stand point, the guy is a jerk, always had been.

I don't support this event being the cause of his firing.

I don't support the comments of Jackson, Sharpton, or Shabaz in their attempts to exploit this event, esp given their comments about the Duke players. They are igger idiots than Imus could ever hope to be on his worst day.

tw · 05-15-2007, 09:12 PM

One that got Wolfowitz fired.

04-13-2007, 02:36 AM

You are either an American or you are not.
There is only one race, the human one.
Your nose or melanin content does not mean shit.
Call me a name, since it has to do with Me, it is a compliment... I am awesome!

Imus has every right to say what he said, as do everyone to react the way they did.
I also agree the double standard for "minorities" is for bigots and fools. If it is not ok for one person, it is not ok for anyone and the reaction should be the same.
A cracker is a FL cowboy that uses a whip to drive cattle out of palmettos and scrub. I grew-up as one.
There are black, hispanic and white crackers... the term in the vernacular always confused me.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-13-2007, 02:50 AM

First, yes, there is a double standard against whites for use of words but the real double standard is against minorities. There is so much racism against minorities it is really embarrassing and you have the balls to complain about not being able to say a word? Do you have the balls to say this to a mostly non-white forum Merc because I can direct you to one if you want?

The fact that this double standard has made such a big deal proves of America's racism. If anything goes against minorities it is seen as normal or covered up while any double standard against whites is the worst thing in the world. If you want to end racism you will have to start with white supremacy because without that, you don't have any other double standards.

TheMercenary · 04-13-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

First, yes, there is a double standard against whites for use of words but the real double standard is against minorities. There is so much racism against minorities it is really embarrassing and you have the balls to complain about not being able to say a word? Do you have the balls to say this to a mostly non-white forum Merc because I can direct you to one if you want?

The fact that this double standard has made such a big deal proves of America's racism. If anything goes against minorities it is seen as normal or covered up while any double standard against whites is the worst thing in the world. If you want to end racism you will have to start with white supremacy because without that, you don't have any other double standards.

I am not complaining about not being able to say a word. Yes, I have the balls to say it to anyone anywhere to their face. I assure you that I will say anything I have said here to anyone in person.

The fact that there is a double standard among blacks that no one wants to address is the issue. You can't have it both ways and ever expect advancement and equal treatment. I am all for ending racism. I want to see negros step up and admit and deal with it as well instead of exploiting this case, the Duke case, the Brawley case, and all other cases where people went over board in an attempt to make something huge out of an issue to further an agenda on race.

Beestie · 04-13-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The fact that there is a double standard among blacks that no one wants to address is the issue. You can't have it both ways and ever expect advancement and equal treatment. I am all for ending racism. I want to see negros step up and admit and deal with it as well instead of exploiting this case, the Duke case, the Brawley case, and all other cases where people went over board in an attempt to make something huge out of an issue to further an agenda on race.

I agree. So does this guy.

Shawnee123 · 04-13-2007, 10:29 AM

This painfully liberal human being agrees as well.

Someone called a comment into a local paper, saying: Imus is an equal opportunity insulter. That's true.

What those girls accomplished should not be minimized. The class they showed afterwards should not be minimized.

However, I feel they let some shock jock minimize them by even acknowledging a stupid statement made by someone who is irrelevant to them and their accomplishments.

Rkz has it right: color of skin is inconsequential in what kind of person you are. Why do we continually let others' idiocy have any bearing on what we really are?

I'm ready for flames, but this whole issue was just stupid. It was a stupid thing to say, it was stupid to overreact, and it's stupid to pretend that only minorities are discriminated against.

Pssst...Bruce Willis used the word "broad" referring to women last night on the Letterman show. He also made joking references to how many women he has bedded. I am abhorred, offended, downtrodden. He has demeaned my womanhood with his callous, uncalled for statements. I demand the immediate dismissal of Bruce from whatever contracts he has, I want his new movie pulled from the theaters, and his old ones from the DVD store shelves. I want a public apology, though that won't be enough. I want him stripped of his title "Maxi-Mega Super Star." He has lessened the fact that I was born with a vagina, and goddammit, I'm not going to take it anymore!

Don't even get me started on Howard Stern's attitude towards women (the shock jock, not the "not Anna Baby Daddy" guy.)

piercehawkeye45 · 04-13-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am not complaining about not being able to say a word. Yes, I have the balls to say it to anyone anywhere to their face. I assure you that I will say anything I have said here to anyone in person.

I wasn't trying to make it a challenge but if you are really telling the truth then I have a little more respect for you. I know of a lot of white that will talk shit about how they are getting the short end of the stick but once a minority shows up, change their views to the other side.

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The fact that there is a double standard among blacks that no one wants to address is the issue. You can't have it both ways and ever expect advancement and equal treatment. I am all for ending racism. I want to see negros step up and admit and deal with it as well instead of exploiting this case, the Duke case, the Brawley case, and all other cases where people went over board in an attempt to make something huge out of an issue to further an agenda on race.

I don't have a problem with acknowledging the problem but it is when we start calling white and black racism equal when I have the problem. They are completely different and different types of racism, white is proactive while minority is reactive. That means black racism is caused by white racism.

Also, if you want to get into it, most of black racism against whites is made by whites. Record companies, white, basically make the songs for the black rappers nowadays so it is the whites that promoting black racism against whites to make money.

And about the negro comment, I have heard many blacks find that very offensive. You don't have to say African American but just say black. Negro is too close to n****r.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-13-2007, 10:50 AM

Whoops, double post, delete this please.

Shawnee123 · 04-13-2007, 10:55 AM

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Also, if you want to get into it, most of black racism against whites is made by whites. Record companies, white, basically make the songs for the black rappers nowadays so it is the whites that promoting black racism against whites to make money.

I strongly urge you to re-read the column Beestie pointed to.

DanaC · 04-13-2007, 06:15 AM

Well said pierce.

And Merc of course I recognise my own country's part in history. Nor am I beating on your country when I talk about its historic and current role in racial politics. I feel no guilt for my country's role. I do however recognise my country's role. Its simply a matter of history.

04-12-2007, 11:23 PM	#3
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05-15-2007, 09:12 PM	#6
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04-13-2007, 10:29 AM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	This painfully liberal human being agrees as well. Someone called a comment into a local paper, saying: Imus is an equal opportunity insulter. That's true. What those girls accomplished should not be minimized. The class they showed afterwards should not be minimized. However, I feel they let some shock jock minimize them by even acknowledging a stupid statement made by someone who is irrelevant to them and their accomplishments. Rkz has it right: color of skin is inconsequential in what kind of person you are. Why do we continually let others' idiocy have any bearing on what we really are? I'm ready for flames, but this whole issue was just stupid. It was a stupid thing to say, it was stupid to overreact, and it's stupid to pretend that only minorities are discriminated against. Pssst...Bruce Willis used the word "broad" referring to women last night on the Letterman show. He also made joking references to how many women he has bedded. I am abhorred, offended, downtrodden. He has demeaned my womanhood with his callous, uncalled for statements. I demand the immediate dismissal of Bruce from whatever contracts he has, I want his new movie pulled from the theaters, and his old ones from the DVD store shelves. I want a public apology, though that won't be enough. I want him stripped of his title "Maxi-Mega Super Star." He has lessened the fact that I was born with a vagina, and goddammit, I'm not going to take it anymore! Don't even get me started on Howard Stern's attitude towards women (the shock jock, not the "not Anna Baby Daddy" guy.) __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby Last edited by Shawnee123; 04-13-2007 at 10:44 AM.

04-13-2007, 02:36 AM	#7
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	You are either an American or you are not. There is only one race, the human one. Your nose or melanin content does not mean shit. Call me a name, since it has to do with Me, it is a compliment... I am awesome! Imus has every right to say what he said, as do everyone to react the way they did. I also agree the double standard for "minorities" is for bigots and fools. If it is not ok for one person, it is not ok for anyone and the reaction should be the same. A cracker is a FL cowboy that uses a whip to drive cattle out of palmettos and scrub. I grew-up as one. There are black, hispanic and white crackers... the term in the vernacular always confused me.

04-13-2007, 02:50 AM	#8
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	First, yes, there is a double standard against whites for use of words but the real double standard is against minorities. There is so much racism against minorities it is really embarrassing and you have the balls to complain about not being able to say a word? Do you have the balls to say this to a mostly non-white forum Merc because I can direct you to one if you want? The fact that this double standard has made such a big deal proves of America's racism. If anything goes against minorities it is seen as normal or covered up while any double standard against whites is the worst thing in the world. If you want to end racism you will have to start with white supremacy because without that, you don't have any other double standards.

04-13-2007, 10:50 AM	#13
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Whoops, double post, delete this please.

04-13-2007, 06:15 AM	#15
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Well said pierce. And Merc of course I recognise my own country's part in history. Nor am I beating on your country when I talk about its historic and current role in racial politics. I feel no guilt for my country's role. I do however recognise my country's role. Its simply a matter of history.

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