The Wicked Witch is dead. - Page 3

DanaC · 06-11-2008, 07:08 AM

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I could gripe about your grammar, but I'll just let you go study it. The KJV does use correct grammar, btw.

Good God, man, you just can't help yourself can you? Pompous, self-satisfied, arrogant and absurd.

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-12-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Good God, man, you just can't help yourself can you? Pompous, self-satisfied, arrogant and absurd.

Let's see, Dana, how this logically follows: I know more about accurate fifteenth-century grammar, without Google, than you do -- and you call me names on that account.

Can't say as that one shows you in your best light.

If you wanted to say "Methinks thou dost protest too much," why then did you write something else?

tw · 06-12-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Let's see, Dana, how this logically follows: I know more about accurate fifteenth-century grammar, without Google, than you do -- and you call me names on that account.

Can't say as that one shows you in your best light.

Again UG does what UT wants the Cellar to be. Posters insult others rather than post facts. In twenty years, UG got no higher than Corporal. No college education. But he is an expert even on spelling. UG could have won the national spelling bee. But he was too busy saving our nation from evil enemies. Oh. That would be facts. Instead, this is the new Cellar that UT openly encourages. UG attacks DanaC because that proves UG is intelligent. Apparently this makes UT happy.

Well, another Corporal also rose to become his country's leader. He also did it by disparaging the bourgeois and intellectuals. How's that for scary.
UT wants The Cellar to be a hotbed of personal attacks especially from Urban Geurilla. UG, why did you not just call her a cunt. You wanted to.

TheMercenary · 06-12-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

UG... UT ... UG ...UG ...UT ... UG ...DanaC ...UG ...UT ... UT ....Urban Geurilla...UG.....just call her a cunt. You wanted to.

Talk about personal attacks. Sheeeesh.

tw never makes it personal.

lookout123 · 06-12-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Again UG does what UT wants the Cellar to be. Posters insult others rather than post facts. In twenty years, UG got no higher than Corporal. No college education. But he is an expert even on spelling. UG could have won the national spelling bee. But he was too busy saving our nation from evil enemies. Oh. That would be facts. Instead, this is the new Cellar that UT openly encourages. UG attacks DanaC because that proves UG is intelligent. Apparently this makes UT happy.

Well, another Corporal also rose to become his country's leader. He also did it by disparaging the bourgeois and intellectuals. How's that for scary.
UT wants The Cellar to be a hotbed of personal attacks especially from Urban Geurilla. UG, why did you not just call her a cunt. You wanted to.

Well done, well done. I'm a little thick though could you help me?

TW, you're a lying cunt.

Does that count as an insult, or does it fall only in the fact category? So confusing.

tw · 06-13-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Does that count as an insult, or does it fall only in the fact category?

One who still supports George Jr and who, as a professional investor, could only recommend underperforming mutual funds. Yes, lookout123 need only understand what he is told to think and how to scam his clients for maximum profit. Just facts - no insults intended.

This is the new Cellar where the topic is perverted to attack another poster. Not that lookout123 knows the difference. Attacking others is the best way to win an argument that defends wacko extremist rhetoric.

lookout123's friend even distributed voter registration cards, destroyed cards of those who registered Democratic, and then sent in only the Republican cards. Just a friend that lookout123 admitted to - then later tried to deny.

UT – how many more should post like TheMercenary, UG, and lookout123 before you decide their attitude and personal insults are acidic to The Cellar? Is open insulting tolerated until others respond in kind?

TheMercenary · 06-11-2008, 07:34 AM

Those loyal to the Clintons take note of those who were not
By Mark Leibovich

Wednesday, June 11, 2008
WASHINGTON: Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was gracious in her full-throated endorsement of Senator Barack Obama. But that does not mean all is forgiven by others in the Clinton universe.

For proof, look no further than Doug Band, chief gatekeeper to former President Bill Clinton.

Band keeps close track of the past allies and beneficiaries of the Clintons who supported Obama's campaign, three Clinton associates and campaign officials said. Indeed, he is widely known as a member of the Clinton inner circle whose memory is particularly acute on the matter of who has been there for the couple — and who has not.

"The Clintons get hundreds of requests for favors every week," said Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. "Clearly, the people you're going to do stuff for in the future are the people who have been there for you."

McAuliffe, who knows of Band's diligent scorekeeping, emphasized that "revenge is not what the Clintons are about." The accounting is more about being practical, he said, adding, "You have to keep track of this."

Band, who declined to comment, is hardly alone in tallying those considered to have crossed the former candidate or the former president in recent months by supporting Obama. As the Obama bandwagon has swelled, so have the lists of people Clinton loyalists regard as some variation of "ingrate," "traitor" or "enemy," according to the associates and campaign officials, who would speak only on condition of anonymity.

Philippe Reines, a spokesman for both Clintons, said neither kept any specific catalog of those believed to have wronged them. "There is no list," Reines said.

The lists maintained by supporters tend to be less formal documents than spoken diatribes, with offenders' names spat forth in rants, gripe sessions and post-mortems.

Several names and entities are common among various list makers. The lineup invariably begins with A-list members like Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico; Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the House Democratic whip; Gregory Craig, Bill Clinton's lawyer in his impeachment and trial; David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist; Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri; and several Kennedys. Some members of the Democratic Party's rules committee, the state of Iowa and the caucus system in general are also near the top.

The news media have already focused on some list entries, including the online gossip purveyor Matt Drudge (who had the nerve to show up at Hillary Clinton's departure speech on Saturday), Todd Purdum of Vanity Fair (the author of a recent profile of Bill Clinton) and the cable network MSNBC (whose hosts Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are charter list members, Clinton associates said).

The lists are also reported to include lesser-known Obama-supporting members of Congress (for whom the Clintons campaigned), former ambassadors (appointed by Bill Clinton) or Clinton White House officials turned Obama advisers (like Anthony Lake, a former national security adviser, and Susan Rice, a former White House and State Department official).

These are people who should know better than to ask the former president or first lady for a job recommendation for a son-in-law.

Prominent list entries tend to be philosophical about their status. "When you're on the losing end of a campaign, your sense of victimization is higher," said Joe Andrew, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee (appointed by Bill Clinton) who joined the lists after he switched his superdelegate allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Obama just before the primary in his home state, Indiana.

Richardson, the former energy secretary and United Nations ambassador under President Bill Clinton who endorsed Obama after leaning toward Hillary Clinton, said, "I know they're unhappy, but I've been on these lists before."

While Hillary Clinton has a short list of people who disappointed her, Bill Clinton, who reportedly has an encyclopedic memory of all the people he has helped, employed or appointed over the years, apparently has a far longer one, the campaign officials said.

Hillary Clinton's friends have a list of their own (it has frequently included the former president), as do veterans of Bill Clinton's White House (who love to blame Patti Solis Doyle, Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager), Clinton campaign employees (who complained incessantly — and continue to — about Mark Penn, the demoted chief strategist), Clinton fund-raisers and women's groups who supported Hillary Clinton's campaign.

"I won't forget these people," said Susie Tompkins Buell, a co-founder of the Esprit clothing company and a longtime friend of the Clintons who describes herself as "a soul sister" to Hillary Clinton.

When asked to name "these people," Buell specifies "all the women who sold out Hillary." She declined to volunteer names on her list but answered "all of the above" when read a roster of prominent women supporting Obama that includes Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Governor Janet Napolitano of Arizona and Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas.

http://www.iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=13626061

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-12-2008, 04:16 AM

I could with equal accuracy say I find fascists among the hard left ultranationalists. How many have quipped anecdotally that fascism went so far around to the right it met the left coming the other way?

Then you have scholars like von Kuehnelt-Leddihn actually researching the matter and proving it.

The point, and I do have one right at the end of this finger I'm thrusting at you, is fascism is not fundamentally distinguishable from leftism, communism, and suchlike large-government societal paradigms.

Undertoad · 06-12-2008, 10:56 AM

You do realize I can't be provoked in this way.

smoothmoniker · 06-12-2008, 11:07 AM

UT's personal hygiene is not always up to par.

How's that? Now are you provoked?

xoxoxoBruce · 06-12-2008, 11:11 AM

Well, don't expect much, he's only a thickstringer.

Undertoad · 06-12-2008, 11:31 AM

It's true, I did not shower this morning, ran out of time. However I do try to keep my ass completely wiped and do put on a new layer of deodorant.

Flint · 06-12-2008, 04:24 PM

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...a new layer of deodorant...

classicman · 06-12-2008, 01:41 PM

I don't see where UG called Dana a name anyway. - Are the posts I read somehow different or is Tom delusional....or both?

TheMercenary · 06-12-2008, 01:45 PM

I think he leans toward both.

06-11-2008, 07:34 AM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Those loyal to the Clintons take note of those who were not By Mark Leibovich Wednesday, June 11, 2008 WASHINGTON: Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was gracious in her full-throated endorsement of Senator Barack Obama. But that does not mean all is forgiven by others in the Clinton universe. For proof, look no further than Doug Band, chief gatekeeper to former President Bill Clinton. Band keeps close track of the past allies and beneficiaries of the Clintons who supported Obama's campaign, three Clinton associates and campaign officials said. Indeed, he is widely known as a member of the Clinton inner circle whose memory is particularly acute on the matter of who has been there for the couple — and who has not. "The Clintons get hundreds of requests for favors every week," said Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. "Clearly, the people you're going to do stuff for in the future are the people who have been there for you." McAuliffe, who knows of Band's diligent scorekeeping, emphasized that "revenge is not what the Clintons are about." The accounting is more about being practical, he said, adding, "You have to keep track of this." Band, who declined to comment, is hardly alone in tallying those considered to have crossed the former candidate or the former president in recent months by supporting Obama. As the Obama bandwagon has swelled, so have the lists of people Clinton loyalists regard as some variation of "ingrate," "traitor" or "enemy," according to the associates and campaign officials, who would speak only on condition of anonymity. Philippe Reines, a spokesman for both Clintons, said neither kept any specific catalog of those believed to have wronged them. "There is no list," Reines said. The lists maintained by supporters tend to be less formal documents than spoken diatribes, with offenders' names spat forth in rants, gripe sessions and post-mortems. Several names and entities are common among various list makers. The lineup invariably begins with A-list members like Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico; Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the House Democratic whip; Gregory Craig, Bill Clinton's lawyer in his impeachment and trial; David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist; Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri; and several Kennedys. Some members of the Democratic Party's rules committee, the state of Iowa and the caucus system in general are also near the top. The news media have already focused on some list entries, including the online gossip purveyor Matt Drudge (who had the nerve to show up at Hillary Clinton's departure speech on Saturday), Todd Purdum of Vanity Fair (the author of a recent profile of Bill Clinton) and the cable network MSNBC (whose hosts Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are charter list members, Clinton associates said). The lists are also reported to include lesser-known Obama-supporting members of Congress (for whom the Clintons campaigned), former ambassadors (appointed by Bill Clinton) or Clinton White House officials turned Obama advisers (like Anthony Lake, a former national security adviser, and Susan Rice, a former White House and State Department official). These are people who should know better than to ask the former president or first lady for a job recommendation for a son-in-law. Prominent list entries tend to be philosophical about their status. "When you're on the losing end of a campaign, your sense of victimization is higher," said Joe Andrew, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee (appointed by Bill Clinton) who joined the lists after he switched his superdelegate allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Obama just before the primary in his home state, Indiana. Richardson, the former energy secretary and United Nations ambassador under President Bill Clinton who endorsed Obama after leaning toward Hillary Clinton, said, "I know they're unhappy, but I've been on these lists before." While Hillary Clinton has a short list of people who disappointed her, Bill Clinton, who reportedly has an encyclopedic memory of all the people he has helped, employed or appointed over the years, apparently has a far longer one, the campaign officials said. Hillary Clinton's friends have a list of their own (it has frequently included the former president), as do veterans of Bill Clinton's White House (who love to blame Patti Solis Doyle, Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager), Clinton campaign employees (who complained incessantly — and continue to — about Mark Penn, the demoted chief strategist), Clinton fund-raisers and women's groups who supported Hillary Clinton's campaign. "I won't forget these people," said Susie Tompkins Buell, a co-founder of the Esprit clothing company and a longtime friend of the Clintons who describes herself as "a soul sister" to Hillary Clinton. When asked to name "these people," Buell specifies "all the women who sold out Hillary." She declined to volunteer names on her list but answered "all of the above" when read a roster of prominent women supporting Obama that includes Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Governor Janet Napolitano of Arizona and Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas. http://www.iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=13626061 __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

06-12-2008, 04:16 AM	#8
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I could with equal accuracy say I find fascists among the hard left ultranationalists. How many have quipped anecdotally that fascism went so far around to the right it met the left coming the other way? Then you have scholars like von Kuehnelt-Leddihn actually researching the matter and proving it. The point, and I do have one right at the end of this finger I'm thrusting at you, is fascism is not fundamentally distinguishable from leftism, communism, and suchlike large-government societal paradigms. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-12-2008, 11:07 AM	#10
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	UT's personal hygiene is not always up to par. How's that? Now are you provoked? __________________ to live and die in LA

06-12-2008, 11:11 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Well, don't expect much, he's only a thickstringer. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-12-2008, 01:41 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I don't see where UG called Dana a name anyway. - Are the posts I read somehow different or is Tom delusional....or both? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-12-2008, 10:56 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	You do realize I can't be provoked in this way.

06-12-2008, 11:31 AM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It's true, I did not shower this morning, ran out of time. However I do try to keep my ass completely wiped and do put on a new layer of deodorant.

06-12-2008, 01:45 PM	#15
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I think he leans toward both. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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