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Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:08 PM

Abortion rates have fallen.

jinx · 09-04-2008, 08:09 PM

Could we maybe get a link?

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:11 PM

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...705604,00.html

jinx · 09-04-2008, 08:15 PM

Cool, I havn't read that article.
How about something recent enough to show the impact of JLS pregnancy?

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:23 PM

http://health.usnews.com/usnews/heal...us-reports.htm

Not a direct correlation, but the numbers are up.

A more current article, but same report.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/10...ncy/index.html

jinx · 09-04-2008, 08:31 PM

Thanks!
I'm trying to find the actual data on the cdc site, but can't seem to find anything post 2005 (although the article you linked has cdc data from 2006). Am I just blind?
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/teenbrth.htm

Pico and ME · 09-04-2008, 08:44 PM

http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/famsoc.asp

Pico and ME · 09-05-2008, 02:55 PM

Its pretty hard to find evidence for something that hasnt happened yet.

But since teen pregnancies have been on the rise for the last couple of years, a high profile pregnancy like this might only help to increase its acceptability.

I do hope, though, that it will bring to the forefront that giving teens good information about sex and contraceptives is better than telling them to just dont do it.

TheMercenary · 09-05-2008, 04:54 PM

I still don't buy it. That is like saying there was a spike in drunk driving when Princess Di died. Just because the daughter of a high profile person has a teen pregnancy there would be no way to prove, much less measure any direct correlation with teen preg rates.

jinx · 09-05-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I still don't buy it. That is like saying there was a spike in drunk driving when Princess Di died. Just because the daughter of a high profile person has a teen pregnancy there would be no way to prove, much less measure any direct correlation with teen preg rates.

My kid's don't know who Bristol Palin is, but watched the show Jamie Lynn Spears was on regularly... Her pregnancy was a great opportunity to talk about such things with my kids, several times actually...

Shawnee123 · 09-08-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Some woman on the news has a kid that got knocked up. That won't change the decisions of the teens in the back row seat of the van. Not at all.

Absolutely. Young people are going to have sex, or not. It's happened since the beginning of time (gasp...even before television!) and, barring mind control, will continue to happen in the future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx

My kid's don't know who Bristol Palin is, but watched the show Jamie Lynn Spears was on regularly... Her pregnancy was a great opportunity to talk about such things with my kids, several times actually...

Using the occasion to talk to your kids about sex...perfect! As a parent, isn't that the most you can do? Ultimately, the kids grow up and make their own decisions, but opening the lines of communication (i.e. education) is the best defense.

Certainly better than fire and brimstone and you better not have sex nor shall you have access to birth control because it will just make you have sex and don't watch TV or movies because you will want to have sex...blah blah blah.

Undertoad · 09-05-2008, 05:14 PM

Some woman on the news has a kid that got knocked up. That won't change the decisions of the teens in the back row seat of the van. Not at all.

TheMercenary · 09-05-2008, 05:21 PM

"But mom! Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnant!"

BigV · 09-05-2008, 05:37 PM

comedy gold!

TheMercenary · 09-05-2008, 09:26 PM

I think events like this provide a great chance for parents to talk to their kids about it. Everyone should follow your actions in that regard.

09-04-2008, 08:09 PM	#2
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Could we maybe get a link? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

09-04-2008, 08:15 PM	#4
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Cool, I havn't read that article. How about something recent enough to show the impact of JLS pregnancy? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

09-04-2008, 08:23 PM	#5
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	http://health.usnews.com/usnews/heal...us-reports.htm Not a direct correlation, but the numbers are up. A more current article, but same report. http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/10...ncy/index.html Last edited by Pico and ME; 09-04-2008 at 08:30 PM.

09-04-2008, 08:31 PM	#6
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Thanks! I'm trying to find the actual data on the cdc site, but can't seem to find anything post 2005 (although the article you linked has cdc data from 2006). Am I just blind? http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/teenbrth.htm __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

09-05-2008, 04:54 PM	#9
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I still don't buy it. That is like saying there was a spike in drunk driving when Princess Di died. Just because the daughter of a high profile person has a teen pregnancy there would be no way to prove, much less measure any direct correlation with teen preg rates. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-04-2008, 08:08 PM	#1
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Abortion rates have fallen.

09-04-2008, 08:11 PM	#3
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...705604,00.html

09-04-2008, 08:44 PM	#7
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/famsoc.asp

09-05-2008, 02:55 PM	#8
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Its pretty hard to find evidence for something that hasnt happened yet. But since teen pregnancies have been on the rise for the last couple of years, a high profile pregnancy like this might only help to increase its acceptability. I do hope, though, that it will bring to the forefront that giving teens good information about sex and contraceptives is better than telling them to just dont do it.

09-05-2008, 05:14 PM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Some woman on the news has a kid that got knocked up. That won't change the decisions of the teens in the back row seat of the van. Not at all.

09-05-2008, 05:21 PM	#13
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	"But mom! Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnant!" __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-05-2008, 05:37 PM	#14
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	comedy gold! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-05-2008, 09:26 PM	#15
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I think events like this provide a great chance for parents to talk to their kids about it. Everyone should follow your actions in that regard. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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