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Old 12-15-2009, 08:48 AM   #1
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I get it.....regulations never work....so Congress should do nothing.

Lets trust the free market to control its own actions. It worked so well since the repeal of banking/financial services regulations 10 years ago.

It's easy to say its just more of the same or throw them all out....it's tougher to propose a constructive solution.

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Old 12-15-2009, 12:24 PM   #2
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Oh stop it, for Christ's sake. Nobody said that.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:42 PM   #3
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Oh stop it, for Christ's sake. Nobody said that.
SKeptism is fine.....but hardly a constructive comment.

What dont you like about the bill to re-regulate banks and financial services?

What would you propose as an alternative?

Its easy to be a skeptic (in your case) and a blatant partisan (mercenary) critic ....but I rarely, if ever, see anything offered for discussion here in the way of a positive solution from those who consistently just bitch and moan.

For Christ's sake...how about something more than bitching and moaning and complaining for a change.

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Old 12-16-2009, 02:34 AM   #4
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SKeptism is fine.....but hardly a constructive comment.
I stated, I didn't think it wouldn't work, and why.
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What dont you like about the bill to re-regulate banks and financial services?
I don't think it will accomplish what is needed to fix the problem.
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What would you propose as an alternative?
I told you...
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What needs to happen is a change of attitude, a change of culture.
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Its easy to be a skeptic (in your case) and a blatant partisan (mercenary) critic ....but I rarely, if ever, see anything offered for discussion here in the way of a positive solution from those who consistently just bitch and moan.
Positive solution? Kill half the fuckers and the other half will change their attitude. I guaranty that will work better than any pie in the sky legislation.
Do you really think that hoard of Junior Madoffs give a shit about rules? No fucking way, it's all about the Benjamins.
They call themselves a bank, but they're about as far from a bank as possible. Banks profit by providing a service to the public, those piggies profit by manipulating and bleeding the public, and the taxpayer.
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For Christ's sake...how about something more than bitching and moaning and complaining for a change.
Fuck you, I gave you the solution...
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The only thing we can do is stop dealing with these piggies.
Starve the fuckers to death. But you're all wrapped up in making more fucking rules for them to twist, vault, and end run.
You sound like a high school teacher in the ghetto.... "Oh, they're really good boys, they just need a firm hand, a little guidance, and they won't kill anyone else, your honor." Yeah, right.
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:14 AM   #5
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I stated, I didn't think it wouldn't work, and why.
I don't think it will accomplish what is needed to fix the problem.

I told you...

Positive solution? Kill half the fuckers and the other half will change their attitude. I guaranty that will work better than any pie in the sky legislation.
Do you really think that hoard of Junior Madoffs give a shit about rules? No fucking way, it's all about the Benjamins.

They call themselves a bank, but they're about as far from a bank as possible. Banks profit by providing a service to the public, those piggies profit by manipulating and bleeding the public, and the taxpayer.

Fuck you, I gave you the solution... Starve the fuckers to death. But you're all wrapped up in making more fucking rules for them to twist, vault, and end run.

You sound like a high school teacher in the ghetto.... "Oh, they're really good boys, they just need a firm hand, a little guidance, and they won't kill anyone else, your honor." Yeah, right.
Sounds like more bitching and moaning to me.

Kill half the fuckers and the rest will change? Starve the fuckers to death? No need to rules.

Very practical solutions.

Carry on.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:54 PM   #6
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. . . or a partisan poster who just tows the party line. Whats the difference?
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #7
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. . . or a partisan poster who just tows the party line. Whats the difference?
In a pissy mood today?

Any time you want to discuss issues rather than just post a link with a comment of "interesting"......let me know or offer something constructive for a change.

So what dont you like about the bill to re-regulate banks and financial services?

What would you propose as an alternative?

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Old 12-16-2009, 10:03 AM   #8
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how about something more than bitching and moaning and complaining for a change.
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. . . or a partisan poster who just tows the party line. Whats the difference?
You took a shot a very well respected poster which was uncalled for. You have been posting the party line incessantly since you got back here.
You try to discredit anyone who doesn't agree with "your party" and what they are doing. FSM forbid any others who disagree. You seem to act/post as though anyone who doesn't like what "your party" is doing must be stupid or a neo-con. Its the same old tired "D" is good "R" is bad. Thats the culture and attitude that created the environment we are in and many Americans are unhappy with. Unfortunately you ARE part of that culture. Perhaps thats the problem.
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Any time you want to discuss issues rather than just post a link with a comment of "interesting"......let me know or offer something constructive for a change.
If I find articles "interesting" to me, I share them. No different than reading and rewriting their points as some do.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:42 AM   #9
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You took a shot a very well respected poster which was uncalled for. You have been posting the party line incessantly since you got back here.
You try to discredit anyone who doesn't agree with "your party" and what they are doing. FSM forbid any others who disagree. You seem to act/post as though anyone who doesn't like what "your party" is doing must be stupid or a neo-con. Its the same old tired "D" is good "R" is bad. Thats the culture and attitude that created the environment we are in and many Americans are unhappy with. Unfortunately you ARE part of that culture. Perhaps thats the problem.


If I find articles "interesting" to me, I share them. No different than reading and rewriting their points as some do.
My issue is not about agreeing with me. It is about having a contructive discussion.
(hmmmm and you and Merc dont repeatedly discredit those who disagree with you...with your "same old parisan D bullshit"....sound familiar)

Pot calling kettle!

Sorry but I dont find a commenty of "Kill half the fuckers and the rest will change? Starve the fuckers to death" very helpful.

If that is a shot at a well respected member...too fucking bad.

I know its easier for you and Merc to take your shots at me then to actually engage in a discussion.

Fine.. have at it!

I can get as down and dirty as you if you want to go that way.

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Old 12-15-2009, 07:35 PM   #10
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:46 PM   #11
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Pat each other on the back if it makes you feel better.....thats a very constructive response as well.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:55 PM   #12
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Pat each other on the back if it makes you feel better.....thats a very constructive response as well.
Fuck off Partisan Demoncratic Mouth Piece. Peddle your snake oil somewhere else.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:59 PM   #13
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Fuck off Partisan Demoncratic Mouth Piece. Peddle your snake oil somewhere else.
So you really dont want to discuss how to prevent future tax-payer ball-outs or sub-prime lending or high risk unregulated derivatives or fraudulent investment schemes.

Why am I not surprised.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:10 PM   #14
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sigh. Way to not address any of the points made and to twist the conversation, paint with the broadest of brushes and ignore other opinions.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like reading your posts and respect your opinions, well most of the time, but lately you seem to be doing nothing more that regurgitating your party's line so much that I can get EXACTLY what you say from any liberal rag or website.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:51 PM   #15
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sigh. Way to not address any of the points made and to twist the conversation, paint with the broadest of brushes and ignore other opinions.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like reading your posts and respect your opinions, well most of the time, but lately you seem to be doing nothing more that regurgitating your party's line so much that I can get EXACTLY what you say from any liberal rag or website.
Facts are a stubborn thing...and so is your double slandard.

No one else, including you, regurgitates partisan sites or talking points? Bullshit.

Or Merc's blatanly false posts (the Dems in the 90s and Barney Frank forced the issue that resulted in the sub-prime fiasco and all his health care crap) should go w/o a challenge? Bullshit.

Where is your "sigh" when Merc plays the Nazi card? Or when UG characterizes everyone left of him as a socialist?

Or a response of "Kill half the fuckers and the rest will change? Starve the fuckers to death" from Bruce is a constructive response to my quesiton...if you dont like the Democratic proposal, what would you suggest as an alternative? Bullshit.

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