Saving the US Auto Industry - Page 9

ZenGum · 11-19-2008, 11:01 PM

Those poor kids!

Trilby · 11-20-2008, 06:41 AM

Wait. Denny's went under?

ZenGum · 11-20-2008, 07:22 AM

mode????

ETA: That was a bit unfair. Let me add

classicman · 11-20-2008, 07:54 AM

Kudos to Sherman!

Trilby · 11-20-2008, 08:06 AM

WAIT! What about my Grand Slam?!

sweetwater · 11-20-2008, 10:43 AM

Somebody has suggested that the automakers be bailed out by the oil companies. It sounds good.

tw · 11-20-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetwater

Somebody has suggested that the automakers be bailed out by the oil companies.

Oil companies don't have $50billions of spare profits. Furthermore, oil companies have complained for generation about no innovation in domestic auto companies. Oil companies are a reason why oil prices have remained so low. Oil companies innovate dramatically. If the auto companies instituted even 10% of innovation performed in oil companies, then the auto companies would be fixed.

Nobody need bail out the auto companies. As demonstrated in 1979/1981 - replace top management and have all problems solved in years.

So what innovation has Rick Wagoner instituted to save GM? List them. Oh. Grilled even by Congressman, they could not state any solutions - not one. Why?

In an interview on WDIV TV in Detroit on 15(?) November, Rick Wagoner also stated GM is in the best shape it has been in 20 or 30 years. Michelle Maynard, the NY Times reporter in Detroit, noted that he does this often. He takes an optimistic attitude that slips out. IOW he does not yet acknowledge the depth and reasons for GM's meltdown. He is truly that much in denial. He truly believes if he can just get $25billion, then all problems will be solved.

Pico and ME · 11-20-2008, 11:17 AM

Now that makes a ton of sense.

barefoot serpent · 11-20-2008, 11:55 AM

I just ran across this from here:

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Like the mystic Paiute leader Wovoka, Rick Wagoner, through his tried-and true visionary powers as a corporate shaman, plots an automotive "Ghost Dance" movement. A prophetic, last stand for an industry which, like the native American tribes of the 19th century, stands at the brink of extinction
His belief (fueled by lack of funds) being that if he can just get all of the tribes together, dancing all day and all night for five days, maybe the former days of old technology / high profit SUV's and $1.00 per gallon gasoline prices will somehow, through the spirit world and their support of his righteous vision quest, come back. In the process, preserving and extending the life that he and his tribe once lived...
And, like Wovoka's vision and his misguided plea to his people to simply dance to bring back the former way of life, Rick's vision is based on desperation and on naive belief alone. The results of Wagoner's efforts, like those of Wovoka, could be met with an automotive version of the Wounded Knee Massacre, as early as this week.
- - your friend in D-town

it also touches nicely on some other recent threads.

classicman · 11-20-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetwater

Somebody has suggested that the automakers be bailed out by the oil companies. It sounds good.

Interesting thought!

Trilby · 11-20-2008, 04:53 PM

tw, it's deja vu all over again with you, isn't it? QUIT picking on people. Only emotionally disturbed children bully others. *

* I say this with all the emotion of Spock telling Bones some fact of life or other. Dammit, tw, we are not all robots like yourself. We have feelings, dammit! (that was said in a Mock Bones voice, not my own. I'm a robot...but not a robot like you, tw)

tw · 11-20-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

tw, it's deja vu all over again with you, isn't it? QUIT picking on people. Only emotionally disturbed children bully others.

And yet I was not the one who ignored what was posted, jumped to an emotional conclusion, and attacked another.

Pico and ME still has not even stated what caused an emotional outburst. A logical response would have. I am still only guessing what caused it - what was not understood in which post. Still not listed is any quote. Still not asked for is clarification. Why? 1) Nobody knows what caused the unjustified outburst. It was never stated. 2) I still don't know what sentence insulted anyone's intelligence. 3) I still don't have a request to clarify an obvious conclusion. 4) And I still don't have an apology for an unjustified emotional outburst in response to what was only technical fact.

What bullying? I am the one accused of doing what never happened. So Brianna, since you know so much more, then you define the sentence that mysteriously mocked another's intelligence. You decided to stick you nose in it. So you can quote that sentence AND you can quote the bullying. Please - and I am laughing as I post this, Brianna - fill me with your wisdom.

Why laughing? In part because I am wondering what wild conclusion Brianna will jump to.

Aliantha · 11-20-2008, 05:23 PM

HungLikeJesus · 11-20-2008, 05:24 PM

I vote tw as Funniest Cellar Poster 2008.

Aliantha · 11-20-2008, 05:25 PM

I dunno...I think Radar is pretty funny too.

Between the two of them we've had some pretty good action over the last couple of weeks. lol

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11-19-2008, 11:01 PM	#1
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Those poor kids! __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-20-2008, 06:41 AM	#2
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Wait. Denny's went under? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-20-2008, 07:22 AM	#3
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	mode???? ETA: That was a bit unfair. Let me add __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-20-2008, 07:54 AM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Kudos to Sherman! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-20-2008, 08:06 AM	#5
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	WAIT! What about my Grand Slam?! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-20-2008, 10:43 AM	#6
sweetwater lives inside a Mobius strip Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,120	Somebody has suggested that the automakers be bailed out by the oil companies. It sounds good. __________________ I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny

11-20-2008, 11:17 AM	#8
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Now that makes a ton of sense.

11-20-2008, 04:53 PM	#11
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	tw, it's deja vu all over again with you, isn't it? QUIT picking on people. Only emotionally disturbed children bully others. * * I say this with all the emotion of Spock telling Bones some fact of life or other. Dammit, tw, we are not all robots like yourself. We have feelings, dammit! (that was said in a Mock Bones voice, not my own. I'm a robot...but not a robot like you, tw) __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-20-2008, 05:23 PM	#13
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	__________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-20-2008, 05:24 PM	#14
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I vote tw as Funniest Cellar Poster 2008. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

11-20-2008, 05:25 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I dunno...I think Radar is pretty funny too. Between the two of them we've had some pretty good action over the last couple of weeks. lol __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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