The Obamanation

[classicman]

That's fine. From my perspective, it is very easy to see.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You already conceded that "if" when you said a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven

Incorrect, I never said that. I initially disagreed with her statement and still do. Sorry. Again, for the record - I disagree with that premise except perhaps,

among the uninformed/ignorant

[Happy Monkey]

Then you don't disagree with the statement.

[classicman]

Again, the statement is bullshit unless you are uninformed and/or ignorant.

[Happy Monkey]

If the statement does apply to uninformed/ignorant people, as you have conceded, and said uninformed/ignorant people exist, which your concession implies, then the statement is true.

[Flint]

Wait--he only implied that uninformed/ignorant "exist" (based on your interpretation of his post). Maybe they don't, and then he wins.

[capnhowdy]

Either way, we're still stuck with an idiot for a president. I have a feeling nobody will win at this game.

[classicman]

That's because we are all just pawns in the game. Cannon fodder, if you will.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

And the study sheet the Obama Administration put out for school use pending Obama's upcoming speech was astonishingly personality-cultish for the United States. It is more what would be expected for Cuba, Albania, or Ingushetiya. Obama's people thought this would be a good idea. Well, when half your "special advisors" are communists, this is the sort of thing you have to expect.

And that lunatic Radar thought Obama was "the more libertarian candidate." Dear God, what ineptitude and imperception. Radar voted not his wisdom, but his wildly anti-Republican prejudices. It's a dumb thing to vote with your limbic system.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

And the study sheet the Obama Administration put out for school use pending Obama's upcoming speech was astonishingly personality-cultish for the United States. It is more what would be expected for Cuba, Albania, or Ingushetiya. Obama's people thought this would be a good idea. Well, when half your "special advisors" are communists, this is the sort of thing you have to expect.

And that lunatic Radar thought Obama was "the more libertarian candidate." Dear God, what ineptitude and imperception. Radar voted not his wisdom, but his wildly anti-Republican prejudices. It's a dumb thing to vote with your limbic system.

All politicians build personality cults. For instance, Bush still holds you in his grasp even as his very unRepublican interventionist programs continue to kill American soldiers and yield little in the way of democratic self government. Both major parties are cult-like. People compromise their beliefs for the necessary group think that governing requires. It is both creepy and inevitable for successful government.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

All politicians build personality cults. For instance, Bush still holds you in his grasp even as his very unRepublican interventionist programs continue to kill American soldiers and yield little in the way of democratic self government. Both major parties are cult-like. People compromise their beliefs for the necessary group think that governing requires. It is both creepy and inevitable for successful government.

I agree with you but in principle, if you continue the policy and practice of the previous administration then they de facto become your responsibility and you have to assume responsibility for them. Otherwise you have the power to terminate them or at least make it well known that you are supporting them but want them to stop immediately.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I agree with you but in principle, if you continue the policy and practice of the previous administration then they de facto become your responsibility and you have to assume responsibility for them. Otherwise you have the power to terminate them or at least make it well known that you are supporting them but want them to stop immediately.

True, he ran for the job knowing what he was facing.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Griff

For instance, Bush still holds you in his grasp even as his very unRepublican interventionist programs continue to kill American soldiers and yield little in the way of democratic self government. Both major parties are cult-like.

Griff, I can recognize libertarian-like thinking and policymaking in Republicans even when you can't. Bush41 didn't, but Reagan did, as did Bush43. To how much effect, particularly inside the Beltway, there is plenty of room for debate. I'd imagine at least three thick books' worth.

I am no intellectual puppet, but you may be, as suggested by your "holds you in his grasp" blather. It's the kind of thing puppet people would say, no? I challenge you to show otherwise. For starters, interventionism against totalitarianism cannot be wrong, and you cannot show it to be so. Don't remain misled by white liberal guilt; democracy in its several flavors is really the only way for humans to live well vis-a-vis their governments. Anything less than democratic inescapably ends up being all about the oppression. Such things are quite the enemy of mankind. See if you can show otherwise. I don't think you can manage that one either; not and stay committed to liberty you can't.

You're a stimulating thinker, Griff, but you still manage to piss me off a lot, for somebody I've probably got a lot in common with.

[TheMercenary]

FACT CHECK: Biden ignores problems with stimulus

Biden noted 192 airports targeted for improvements with stimulus money, but made no reference to the investigation launched after a federal watchdog raised concerns about how the projects were selected.

Transportation Department Inspector General Calvin Scovel said last month he will examine the Federal Aviation Administration's process for selecting programs for the $1.1 billion in grant money. His announcement came after his office discovered that the Obama administration used stimulus money to pay for 50 airport projects that didn't meet the grant criteria and approved projects at four airports with a history of mismanaging federal grants.

In making the case that the recovery program was not just economically sound but also good policy, Biden noted that transportation money was replacing unsafe bridges.

"It is worthwhile to take some of those 5,000 bridges out there that are ready to collapse, follow what happened in the upper Midwest, and fix them," he said.

But most states are spending stimulus money on bridges that are already in good shape, another AP analysis found. Of the 2,476 bridges scheduled to receive stimulus money so far, nearly half have passed inspections with high marks, according to federal data. Those 1,123 sound bridges received such high inspection ratings that they normally would not qualify for federal bridge money, yet they will share in more than $1.2 billion in stimulus money, the AP analysis published in July found.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...c--RgD9AGCLEG0

[classicman]

Its Bush's fault - they're just tryin to clean up the mess.