Obama--the grumblings

[classicman]

Obama’s 5 p.m. signing came barely three hours after the House approved the bill, breaching Obama’s promise to have a five-day period of “sunlight before signing,” as he detailed on the campaign trail and on his website.

Obama signed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act only two days after it received final passage last week, and it wasn’t posted on the White House website until after it became law.

Politifact.com, a project of the St. Petersburg Times that tracks Obama’s campaign promises, says the five-day rule is the only pledge he has broken outright.

On the Ledbetter Act, the website wrote: “We recognize that Obama has been in office just a week, but he was very clear about his plan for a five-day comment period, and we can’t see why this one needed to be rushed. It is somewhat ironic that with the same action, Obama both keeps and breaks a campaign promise.”

Not really a big deal, but still.

A White House spokesman refused to comment on the matter.

How unusual.

[TheMercenary]

Tax cheats and broken promises

After just two weeks in office, the Obama administration is having a hard time living up to the Obama campaign's mantra of change for the better. Unless, of course, "better" is defined as an administration made up of a handful of tax cheats and broken promises.

While much of the United States is still basking in the afterglow of an historic election and an inspiring inauguration, much of the world is looking at Obama's first two weeks in office with incredulousness.

From a policy perspective, several countries have voiced concerns about the protectionist aspects of Obama's "stimulus" bill currently making its way through the US Senate. Meanwhile, even left-leaning France has rejected an Obama-style spending binge.

What is more troubling to many, is that at a time when the United States is saddled with unprecedented levels of peacetime (at least officially, as Congress has not declared war) debt, Obama chose outright tax cheat Timothy F. Geithner to be Treasury Secretary.

Yet, evading taxes appears to being de rigeur for the Obama team. Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for secretary of health and human services, who several years back excoriated tax evaders, happened to forget until recently to pay at least $128,000 in taxes. Meanwhile, just today, Nancy Killefer, who failed to pay employment taxes for household help for almost two years, withdrew her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government.

Now, it is also coming to light that after promising a clean break with the politics of the past, and promising not to have a lobbyist-tainted administration, exceptions are being made.

All the while, the bill aimed a reviving the American economy is getting more expensive by the moment, with the help of ever more lobbyists. At a time of increasing pressure on the average American household, how many tax cheats, lobbyists, and broken promises will the American public tolerate before it demands real change?

http://www.examiner.com/x-2888-World...roken-promises

[TGRR]

Hmmm...the World News Examiner wrote an op-ed slamming Obama? How will he ever sleep at night again?

[TheMercenary]

The same way Bush lost sleep over anything posted by The Daily Kos or Huffington Post.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The same way Bush lost sleep over anything posted by The Daily Kos or Huffington Post.

Precisely.

What's the point of even posting op-eds, especially from hopelessly biased sources?

[TheMercenary]

For one reason. It provides insight into how fucked up other people think. Just like when ever I read anything referenced from one of those two source. ILMAO.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

For one reason. It provides insight into how fucked up other people think. Just like when ever I read anything referenced from one of those two source. ILMAO.

But your biased sources are the very end all/be all of veracity?

LOL.

Where did you get that masters?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

But your biased sources are the very end all/be all of veracity?

LOL.

Where did you get that masters?

Point to my biased sources in our discussions. Thanks.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Point to my biased sources in our discussions. Thanks.

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=19328&page=6

Post 86.

[TheMercenary]

So this guy,

Craig Meister, a former newspaper reporter, studied diplomatic history at the University of Pennsylvania, worked for the State Department and in various newsgathering operations for national news outlets.

With some pretty good credentials, is less credible than a no-name poster hidden behind a forum name on The Cellar? Ok.

It was an opinion post. You remind me of someone who wants to tell the world the Bill O'Reily is a biased news reporter.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So this guy,

Craig Meister, a former newspaper reporter, studied diplomatic history at the University of Pennsylvania, worked for the State Department and in various newsgathering operations for national news outlets.

With some pretty good credentials, is less credible than a no-name poster hidden behind a forum name on The Cellar? Ok.

It was an opinion post. You remind me of someone who wants to tell the world the Bill O'Reily is a biased news reporter.

So, you view op-ed as a worthy contribution to a debate?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

So, you view op-ed as a worthy contribution to a debate?

Op eds from a person with known credentials always contributes to a debate of nameless faceless forum participatants like you and me. Feel free to make critical comments about the source of the reference and I will feel free to do the same about any of your sources. Isn't that why we are debating? Or are you going to now tell me how fucked up all my sources are so I can turn around and do the same to you and then we both get to put each other on ignore and the discussion ends. Or would you rather discuss the merits of the reference? You choose.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Op eds from a person with known credentials always contributes to a debate of nameless faceless forum participatants like you and me.

No, it does not. Op eds are opinion, which is useless in debate.

Where did you say you got your masters, again?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

No, it does not. Op eds are opinion, which is useless in debate.

Where did you say you got your masters, again?

So you are ready to post your political credential? Ok, go ahead.

[sugarpop]

God, can we just move on from the tax cheats? Personally, I think one would be hard pressed to find ANYONE in Washington who had never flubbed their taxes in their own favor.