Let's Get Rid of the Politics Forum

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Pie

Poo flinging isn't struggle. It's merely poo flinging. It does not advance any cause, change any opinions, or do the world an iota of good.

Now that's quotable quote...thanks Pie!

[lumberjim]

but, if you have any poo, fling it now!

[classicman]

<flings poo at Jim>

[Undertoad]

Right, Tommy, you proved that somebody was a big dic. You proved it. Good on ya.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Right, Tommy, you proved that somebody was a big dic. You proved it. Good on ya.

I cant speak for TW..but here is my take on what he said.

From my experience, the name calling generally follows a pattern.

There are those who will frequently post outside opinions...then duck and cover when challenged.

Everyone here has a right to post an opinion, but when that member cannot or will not provide facts to support that opinion (eg. govt data is biased..even when its not govt data) or demonstrates an unwillingness to acknowledge facts on the other side that challenge that opinion, one can reasonably assume that the first member is not interested in discussion and all that remains is the name calling and declaring oneself an American and with a right to an opinion, regardless of the facts!

Facts? Bah...who cares about facts when having a political discussion! Its more convenient for some to insist that others "prove a negative" (demand proof that govt data is NOT biased, rather than offer proof that it is.)

But then, I am just a partisan mouthpiece and former sleazy lobbyist...or so I am told repeatedly, when all else fails.

[xoxoxoBruce]

OMG, they've killed Tommy.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Everyone here has a right to post an opinion,

But then, I am just a partisan mouthpiece and former sleazy lobbyist...

See - we are not that far apart - on these two points we now agree.

I didn't agree with the latter until recently though, you've finally convinced me.

Originally Posted by classicman

See - we are not that far apart - on these two points we now agree.

I didn't agree with the latter until recently though, you've finally convinced me.

I've learned that cheap parlour tricks are the best (only?) way to engage narrow minded people around here.

Now I just need to figure out how to "prove a negative" in order to have further engagement.

[Aliantha]

Who's got a big dick?

[monster]

tommy lee?

[lumberjim]

[Aliantha]

Have either of you ever used the ignore button? It might be a good idea to give it a go.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Have either of you ever used the ignore button? It might be a good idea to give it a go.

I think poorly of that function and do not need it. His constant personal attacks do not bother me personally. I expect extremists to do that when challenged because of their nature – including identifying me by name and address to make me a public target for extremists. Why did he work so long and hard to discover that information? Extremism is driven by hate (or maybe the other way around).

Extremists throughout history have done same to undermine whole societies. Hitler defined it important to seize power: disparage the bourgeoisies and intelligencia. Then the only people left can tell everyone how to think.

Do I think he will undermine America? Of course not and that is not what I said. People such as he should be overtly challenged because extremists in numbers are a primary reason for wars, massacres. the Spanish Inquisition, intolerance, pedophilia that even the Catholic Church has all but encouraged, terrorism, torture, and even something so stupid as "We do not talk to our enemies".

You might notice, he is now appearing, often immediately, in any discussion I participate in. If his apology was truly meaningful, then he would not be posting in threads that he has nothing useful to contribute. Especially in technical threads where he obviously could not contribute. Defined are actions encouraged by Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh.

However it has been a while since I have heard that Hilary is evil.

We are not talking about poo. Those were personal threats that took significant time (and maybe money) to execute. He did so in a pre-meditated manner.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by tw

... I expect extremists to do that when challenged because of their nature – including identifying me by name and address to make me a public target for extremists. ...

... People such as he should be overtly challenged ...

We are not talking about poo. Those were personal threats that took significant time (and maybe money) to execute. He did so in a pre-meditated manner.

TW, the reliability of information is determined by both the accuracy of the information and verification of the source. There's even a commonly used alpha-numeric scale to rate the two components. It ranges from an accurate source of well established identity (A-1) to an inaccurate anonymous source (F-6). It's entirely possible to get good information from an anonymous source; or, bogus information from a well known source. An anonymous source of accurate information isn't easily discarded; however, it is always suspect as it may be a prelude to eventual deception since no one knows who the source is and can't verify where that person's sympathies lie by other means. You fall into that category. Given your prolific posting in certain forums, I find that ANYONE's attempt to further identify you does not constitute untoward behavior. That's the risk you accepted when you admonished "People such as he should be overtly challenged" [bold mine].

I concur that using the ignore feature is inappropriate in this instance. Please do continue to talk to your opponents here: "Keep your friends close: keep your enemies closer."

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Given your prolific posting in certain forums, I find that ANYONE's attempt to further identify you does not constitute untoward behavior.

I disagree. Seeking out unoffered personal details of a forum poster is creepy, and using those details to draw attention to the fact that you know them is threatening and stalkerish.