Army to court martial 'birther' officer

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Conspiracy Theorists know no bounds in race, religion, or whatever. They are everywhere.

You serious? Because the dumbasses that believe the Jews are taking control of the world are definitely not anti-Semitic...

There are some racists who using the "birther" as an issue to cover up their racism and there are constitutionalists who would complain if they thought George W. Bush was born in Canada. You can't generalize them all as racist or not racist.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You can't generalize them all as racist or not racist.

My point exactly. But in reality they can't be generalized at all. Racism is a issue injected by those who seek to stifle the voices of those who disagree with Obama. It is a false notion, IMHO.

[xoxoxoBruce]

It's not false, it's just not all encompassing. That said, I've been meeting more and more people with various gripes about Obama, who when questioned further resort to, because he's a damn nigger. I've been really surprised how prevalent it is. ymmv, as PA has more hate groups than any other state.

[Cloud]

well, that's true. It's the target that's suggestive in this case.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Cloud

well, that's true. It's the target that's suggestive in this case.

That is because it a convenient arguement IMHO. Too convenient...

[Shawnee123]

The BS stench in this thread is overpowering!

merc, check the bottom of your shoes, for pete's sake.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

merc, check the bottom of your shoes, for pete's sake.

Please don't bother on my account. I can tell where BS lives by the smell.

[DanaC]

I heard (alright, half heard, whilst doing other stuff) a programme on the radio last night about the TEA party movement. Listening to a lot of their rhetoric, they did sound as if they believed that Obama and the 'left' were inherently unAmerican and that the 'the People' were themselves. Like they were living under some kind of dictatorship that hadn't been voted in (because they themselves hadn't voted for him).

[Shawnee123]

This guy probably more exemplifies that crowd.

And, couldn't find it on youtube, but here's a hulu clip:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/90671/the-...ased-by-ghosts

[Shawnee123]

You can't walk around small town America without bumping a nut on someone who says Obama is a socialist, anti-american, the *n* word...blah blah blah. I usually hear these things right before the person spits on the sidewalk or adjusts their overalls, or spills beer on their "mustache rides" t-shirt. Dumbasses.

[Cloud]

the thing about Obama is he doesn't play by the old-boy network rules. He doesn't necessarily cater to the press or the lobbyists or the collateral lines of power that have been in place for a long time, and that's pissed a bunch of people off. (Makes me happy though). Whether or not the birthers or teapartyists are racist, well--how do you prove a negative? How do you prove hatred?

I certainly do have the impression that many of these people are motivated by racism. Probably Merc was right to call me on it when I called the original birther guy posted about racist, because it's true, I have no proof of that. nothing in the articles I read mentioned a racist motivation. But just because it's "convenient" to attribute a racial motivation to those opposing our president . . . doesn't mean it's not true, at least partially.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Cloud

the thing about Obama is he doesn't play by the old-boy network rules.

I think he has his own "good ole boy network", it just isn't the traditional one we would associate with that sterotype.

He doesn't necessarily cater to the press or the lobbyists or the collateral lines of power that have been in place for a long time, and that's pissed a bunch of people off. (Makes me happy though).

And that is one thing I really liked about some people in the Bush Admin as well, esp Rumsfield and the way he handled the press. But hey I am a bit more hawkish. Not that is was always the correct way to deal with them but I loved it when he handed them their assess in Q&A press meetings.

[Shawnee123]

I certainly do have the impression that many of these people are motivated by racism. Probably Merc was right to call me on it when I called the original birther guy posted about racist, because it's true, I have no proof of that. nothing in the articles I read mentioned a racist motivation. But just because it's "convenient" to attribute a racial motivation to those opposing our president . . . doesn't mean it's not true, at least partially.

Funny how he noticed that and called you on it...true or not. I guess it's not OK to call people racist just because they don't like our president, but it's OK to call certain politicians nazi whores, among a million other silly names meant to cast aspersions on the "other party."

IMHO (the acronym of the week) those two notions don't jibe. Seems self-serving, to me, and I'm highly amused at the dichotomy.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Funny how he noticed that and called you on it...true or not. I guess it's not OK to call people racist just because they don't like our president, but it's OK to call certain politicians nazi whores, among a million other silly names meant to cast aspersions on the "other party."

IMHO (the acronym of the week) those two notions don't jibe. Seems self-serving, to me, and I'm highly amused at the dichotomy.

Mere rhetorical frippery...

But they do border on whorish behavior IMHO.

[Shawnee123]

I think he has his own "good ole boy network", it just isn't the traditional one we would associate with that sterotype.

with that "stereotype"?

I'm not being a spelling nazi (hehehehee) I just find that to be an interesting choice of a word.