Toilet. Cleaning Advice Appreciated. - Page 2

footfootfoot · 06-05-2011, 12:31 PM

the thing you have to do is figure out what the stain is. Is it a stain from the water or did someone use a stainless steel scrubbing brush? If it is from a stainless steel scouring pad or brush then the gray stain is from actual bits of metal ground away from by the very fine pores in the surface of the glaze. You would have to use something very powerful to remove it. Probably Muriatic Acid. They sell it at the hardware store. It's a drastic measure and may cause problems if not done properly.

that being said, 40 years in toilet years is like 32 years in dog years which would be about 197 years in people years. It's really way past time for a new toilet.

Undertoad · 06-05-2011, 02:06 PM

Also, cut way down on the red wine and artificially-colored cereals.

BigV · 06-06-2011, 10:32 AM

of course, that depends on the level of the stain, relative to the normal water level. If it is too high and still doesn't get wet, then I can have any of my teenagers come over and have them raise the water level to the rim, if needed.

classicman · 06-06-2011, 11:00 AM

... or if the plastic bag is filled with sand it will effectively seal the bottom and raise the water level.

BigV · 06-06-2011, 11:15 AM

more such advice. http://www.accouters.com/how-do-i-re...my-toilet.html

why not LOWER the water level (to dryness) and apply a coat(s) of special paint? takes the fixture out of service for a short while, a few days at most, but you have a new surface. there are things to figure out mentioned in the link like is it porcelain or china, etc. quite doable though.

morethanpretty · 06-06-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

why not LOWER the water level (to dryness) and apply a coat(s) of special paint? takes the fixture out of service for a short while, a few days at most, but you have a new surface. there are things to figure out mentioned in the link like is it porcelain or china, etc. quite doable though.

This seems like the best advice to me, especially since it sounds like something wrong with the finish, not particularly a stain. Then again, I can't see it.
here is an example I found: http://www.discoveredit.com/procalib...nishspray.aspx

In alternative to replacing the toilet with a new one, do y'all only have the 1 bathroom? Could y'all switch it with another bathroom? One that the guests don't see? She will still have the "dirty toilet" (thank god your mum will never visit me) but at least her friends won't see it to be all judgmental about it.

Spexxvet · 06-06-2011, 04:38 PM

Can you post a picture, Sundae?

HungLikeJesus · 06-06-2011, 01:23 PM

If it were me, I would just put a dimmer bulb in the bathroom.

classicman · 06-06-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

If it were me, I would just put a dimmer bulb in the bathroom.

FTW!
Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

Sundae · 06-06-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

get a plastic bag and fill it with some rocks. Put the bag in the toilet. The water level will rise. Thank you Aesop.

Wait, that's from Fingerbobs, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Also, cut way down on the red wine and artificially-colored cereals.

Neither currantly (see what I did there?) consumed in this household.

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Originally Posted by limey

Smash the toilet accidentally (drop something heavy on it. Dad will buy a new one. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by monster

better suggest mum does that or Sundae will be sent to Coventry again.

Monster's got the family dynamics right. Except Mum would never agree with that approach. She's no shrinking violet. She'll just be all acid and venom, leaving Dad with NO idea what he's done wrong this time, despite heavy hints. I expect lots of bitchy personal comments along the lines of "I'm not surprised you didn't clean the table properly, you're willing to put up with a filthy toilet" and "No of course you didn't hear me deafo! You can't see that the toilet is filthy either!"

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

If it were me, I would just put a dimmer bulb in the bathroom.

If I were living with you HLJ, I would BAN dimmer switches. Kiss kiss.

Sometimes I think dropping a rock on Mum's head would be the best solution.
But then who would clean the toilet?

limey · 06-06-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae

...She'll just be all acid and venom, leaving Dad with NO idea what he's done wrong this time, despite heavy hints. I expect lots of bitchy personal comments along the lines of "I'm not surprised you didn't clean the table properly, you're willing to put up with a filthy toilet" and "No of course you didn't hear me deafo! You can't see that the toilet is filthy ?

But srsly, SG, ifn you know these bitchy comments come from the toilet bowl scenario, can't you just ignore them? (Your dad must have his own coping mechanism by now, I suppose ...)

Sundae · 06-07-2011, 01:55 PM

Thanks for ALL the comments. Turns out Casi was right in the first response - Dad went out and bought bicarb of soda this morning and she was already working it by the time I got home today! And it IS working. Are calcium deposits different to limescale? Her toilet cleaner is a 100% limescale remover, apparently...? Which is why we were wandering down the damaged ceramic route.

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Originally Posted by limey

But srsly, SG, ifn you know these bitchy comments come from the toilet bowl scenario, can't you just ignore them? (Your dad must have his own coping mechanism by now, I suppose ...)

Dad just lets them go.

I'm FAR better than I was, but something inside me lets her get to me every time. Afterwards I can rationalise it - she's upset and angry and it's not my fault. But I spent a childhood of her being upset and angry and it WAS my fault.

The thing that still scares me is that she brings things back up from previous situations. I'm always terrified that she will start talking about times I have made her ashamed, and embarrassed her. She told me just last year the reason my husband left me was because I didn't keep a clean house. Despite the fact I left him. That was a low blow, dredging up something that I'm still torn by and happened over 10 years ago.

On the one hand she worries about me blaming myself too much for the divorce, and yet when she is in a pissy mood she has no problem bringing it up again to smack me with. The issue was a moot one anyway - I wasn't helping Dad in the garden. I'd asked him the day before and he said he'd rather do it himself.

Meh - I'm too defensive says Mum.
Maybe I am.
But I'm also lazy, spiteful, bitchy, argumentative and live in an airy fairy world of my own. According to her.

Anyway.
This is a GOOD NEWS THREAD!
Toilet is cleaner, she will continue with the treatment.
And she is very pleased and proud of both the difference and of me.
And I cooked a lovely meal of chicken wings tonight.
So I am well in favour, which I owe to the Cellar.

footfootfoot · 06-07-2011, 02:04 PM

just for perspective:

£200 for a toilet that lasts 40 years=

£5 /year or £.0137 / day

Assuming three people using the toilet an average of 3 times per day (9 times /day)
that comes out to £0.001522 per use.

obviously that doesn't include the cost of water, sewage, or toilet paper.

I'd say £200 is a pretty good deal considering the convenience of a having a toilet in one's home and the alternative.

And, gives a new meaning to "spending a penny"

footfootfoot · 06-07-2011, 02:06 PM

ps, I'm happy about ur baking soda

infinite monkey · 06-07-2011, 03:37 PM

I'm happy about ur toilet, too.

06-05-2011, 12:31 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	the thing you have to do is figure out what the stain is. Is it a stain from the water or did someone use a stainless steel scrubbing brush? If it is from a stainless steel scouring pad or brush then the gray stain is from actual bits of metal ground away from by the very fine pores in the surface of the glaze. You would have to use something very powerful to remove it. Probably Muriatic Acid. They sell it at the hardware store. It's a drastic measure and may cause problems if not done properly. that being said, 40 years in toilet years is like 32 years in dog years which would be about 197 years in people years. It's really way past time for a new toilet. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

06-06-2011, 10:32 AM	#3
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	of course, that depends on the level of the stain, relative to the normal water level. If it is too high and still doesn't get wet, then I can have any of my teenagers come over and have them raise the water level to the rim, if needed. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

06-06-2011, 11:00 AM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	... or if the plastic bag is filled with sand it will effectively seal the bottom and raise the water level. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-06-2011, 11:15 AM	#5
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	more such advice. http://www.accouters.com/how-do-i-re...my-toilet.html why not LOWER the water level (to dryness) and apply a coat(s) of special paint? takes the fixture out of service for a short while, a few days at most, but you have a new surface. there are things to figure out mentioned in the link like is it porcelain or china, etc. quite doable though. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

06-06-2011, 04:38 PM	#7
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Can you post a picture, Sundae? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

06-05-2011, 02:06 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Also, cut way down on the red wine and artificially-colored cereals.

06-06-2011, 01:23 PM	#8
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	If it were me, I would just put a dimmer bulb in the bathroom. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

06-07-2011, 02:04 PM	#13
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	just for perspective: £200 for a toilet that lasts 40 years= £5 /year or £.0137 / day Assuming three people using the toilet an average of 3 times per day (9 times /day) that comes out to £0.001522 per use. obviously that doesn't include the cost of water, sewage, or toilet paper. I'd say £200 is a pretty good deal considering the convenience of a having a toilet in one's home and the alternative. And, gives a new meaning to "spending a penny" __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs Last edited by footfootfoot; 06-07-2011 at 03:41 PM.

06-07-2011, 02:06 PM	#14
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	ps, I'm happy about ur baking soda __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

06-07-2011, 03:37 PM	#15
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I'm happy about ur toilet, too.

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