Please to explain for the hard of understanding...

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by DanaC

... So - please to explain for the hard of understanding (Brit)?

The current open carry movement is the brainchild of the fashion industry strategizing to make a fortune selling coordinated firearms accessories.

[DanaC]

Hmmmm....slightly mollified by the fact that he also wrote a book called: How to Raise Righteous and Rowdy Daughters!

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Apparently another book on their site is:

So, I went looking for a write up of the book and found this:

And at the White Feather Press site they describe it:

I don't even know where to start with that...

Originally Posted by DanaC

Hmmmm....slightly mollified by the fact that he also wrote a book called: How to Raise Righteous and Rowdy Daughters!

I think if the sort of people who have kids and want to raise those sorts of kids, need a book to tell them how to raise those sorts of kids, they probably wouldn't want those sorts of kids anyway...would they?

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I think if the sort of people who have kids and want to raise those sorts of kids, need a book to tell them how to raise those sorts of kids, they probably wouldn't want those sorts of kids anyway...would they?

Most likely aye lol.

Both books are horrible, imo. Lot of it is nothing to do with child rearing and everything to do with lambasting liberal politics - including some very anti-gay and racist stuff.

But I was mildly less pissed off when I realised he'd done one for the girls as well as one for the boys, and that the one for the girls was not about raising subordinates.

[sexobon]

Très chic.

[BigV]

I'd say 100%.

If the purpose of open carry isn't to be seen carrying a gun, they're doing it, whatever the hell they're doing, completely wrong. Any other motivation would call for concealed carry, or unarmed. Who "accidentally" straps on their firearm when leaving the house? The very idea is to draw attention to the fact that they're armed.

[sexobon]

The term attention whoring has a very different connotation from making being armed obvious as a deterrent. Do you label all uniformed (open carrying) police officers attention whores?

[BigV]

Originally Posted by sexobon

The term attention whoring has a very different connotation from making being armed obvious as a deterrent. Do you label all uniformed (open carrying) police officers attention whores?

it's unfortunate that you're bothered by the term...

I consider open carry to be a deliberate, conspicuous, intentional, obvious act specifically designed to draw the attention of all those around them, perhaps in the hope of "deterrence", but nonetheless to be noticed. That's the attention part. As for whoring, I am reminded of the old joke with punchline, "...we've already established what kind of woman you are, now we're just negotiating the price." They're trying really hard to be noticed. They'd consider it a failure if I didn't notice.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That's because you didn't grow up in a time and place where people carried guns when they had a use for them. So when to see someone with a gun shocks you and rattles your sense of order.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by glatt

I'm not talking about cops or about hunters or people transporting their guns from point A to point B. I'm talking about people who strap a gun to their hip to go run errands. They are looking to be noticed. That's the definition of attention whore.

But that didn't stop you from making a blanket statement. Footfootfoot's characterization nailed your motive.

Originally Posted by BigV

... I consider open carry to be a deliberate, conspicuous, intentional, obvious act specifically designed to draw the attention of all those around them, perhaps in the hope of "deterrence", but nonetheless to be noticed. That's the attention part. As for whoring, I am reminded of the old joke with punchline, "...we've already established what kind of woman you are, now we're just negotiating the price." They're trying really hard to be noticed. They'd consider it a failure if I didn't notice.

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[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by sexobon

But that didn't stop you from making a blanket statement. Footfootfoot's characterization nailed your motive.



The above announcement was brought to you by the TW Academy of Personal Definitions [a subsidiary of Narrow Minded Inc.].

LMAO

[glatt]

Originally Posted by sexobon

But that didn't stop you from making a blanket statement.

I made a statement within the context of this thread. It wasn't a blanket statement meant to cover all cops, hunters, etc. This began as a thread about carrying guns around in everyday situations and included pictures showing soldiers with guns in a bar. Foot even said "For the most part, no one has a reason to walk around visibly armed. "

It's a thread about walking around visibly armed. And that was what my comment was aimed at. I used the words "attention whore" because it's a shortcut that I thought everyone understood. Maybe I should have said "making a statement" or "wanting to be noticed," but it's really all the same.

V is explaining it well. Yes, it's more burdensome to get a concealed carry permit, so there are logistical reasons for doing an open carry, but the point of open carry is that all can see that you are armed. It's about being noticed.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by BigV

Http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...40805?irpc=932

What do think about this guy? He fits my definition of attention whore.

The very first line of BigV's Reuters link:

An Arizona medical researcher arrested after taking a loaded assault rifle into the Phoenix airport said on Monday he was making a political statement and did not intend to harm anyone.

That line puts him (the researcher) in the category of protester/demonstrator. Firmly in 'attention whore' territory. "Look at me, know what I think, think like me, please."

Originally Posted by sexobon

Do you label all uniformed (open carrying) police officers attention whores?

Not all, but, a great deal of them, yes.

[footfootfoot]

Maybe for you city dwellars open carry =attention whoredom, but in other locales, it it the norm and you need special permission to carry concealed. That means if you want to go to the firing range or a competition, or take your gun to a gunsmith you have to open carry.

The state gun laws and regional lifestyles make such blanket statements trollish at best.

[glatt]

I'm not talking about cops or about hunters or people transporting their guns from point A to point B. I'm talking about people who strap a gun to their hip to go run errands. They are looking to be noticed. That's the definition of attention whore.