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BigV · 02-26-2017, 05:54 PM

I think that's Austrian for ROAD CLOSED.

Also, this is why U shaped valleys are evidence of glaciers and V shaped valleys are evidence of rivers.

That is a lot of momentum.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-26-2017, 07:12 PM

It blew me away that it didn't follow the creek but just kept going straight.

BigV · 02-26-2017, 08:45 PM

creek bed almost certainly full by that point, even the frothy tops of the flow are house high. the creek "overflowed".

xoxoxoBruce · 02-26-2017, 11:03 PM

It came down the creek but instead of following the bed where the creek bent, it went straight across and down the road. The mass that was pushing overflowed over that hill and down to fill the creek, at the same time the far side was going over the roof of the house, but the point kept on moving straight until there were enough places for the pushing mass to fall off the sides. Amazing.

BigV · 02-26-2017, 11:06 PM

The path of least resistance

xoxoxoBruce · 02-26-2017, 11:47 PM

If I was down there I'd have a traction problem. Slippin' in shit... mine.

Gravdigr · 02-27-2017, 05:01 PM

That was wild. Slowest avalanche evah.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-27-2017, 11:40 PM

Boston Dynamics is getting really scary.

Gravdigr · 02-28-2017, 03:08 PM

Wicked.

Gravdigr · 02-28-2017, 05:27 PM

glatt · 03-03-2017, 11:01 AM

I've been fascinated, perhaps even obsessed, with the Oroville Dam. At first, I was trying to figure out if there really was a danger to the towns below when it was overflowing. But now, I'm focused on just how bad the damage was.

The videos we all saw of the torrents of water coming down the broken spillway and over the emergency spillway were taken from so far away, the scale of the thing is just not possible to comprehend. This dam is massive. Even in this post, I try to show a picture of how massive it is, but files size restrictions won't let me.

Look at just the EDGE of the damaged spillway. Now look for the people. How many do you see? None? Look closer.
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What I really encourage you to do is to check out the videos from drone footage from the California Department of Water Resources. Here' one from yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpXtMZwpDqs Make sure to watch on a computer in 1080 mode with the video at full screen. It's amazing. As of this writing, only 178 people before you have looked at this video.

After it's over, take a look at some of their other videos.

Then look at some before pictures of the spillway. It looked perfectly fine.

Those fucking libtards in California, right? Ignoring that engineer's report that the dam spillway needed some maintenance. It's easy to think that this is just an isolated incident in California. But you've all seen those occasional news stories that come out that talk about old bridges that need work, and infrastructure, blah, blah, blah.

There is an Oroville Dam type of infrastructure problem in basically every city and county in the US. Not a dam, of course, but a bridge, or a highway, or a metro system, or a tunnel, or an overpass. You know which ones. You pass them all the time and ignore the crumbling concrete and rusty rebar poking out. They are EVERYWHERE.

This country was built by our grandparents, and its expiration date is here.

Good thing we're fighting about illegal immigrants.

But yeah, check out the videos. They are amazing. The scale.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-03-2017, 04:57 PM

This one shows the spillway that was damaged and the emergency spillway before and after the damage. Skip the first 1:15

Griff · 03-04-2017, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

This country was built by our grandparents, and its expiration date is here.

word.

We've been putting stuff on the back burner since the '80s. I hope Trump has buddies in heavy construction because I think we all know how this administration works.

Griff · 03-04-2017, 09:07 AM

The avalanche footage was amazing.

Undertoad · 03-04-2017, 09:45 AM

How can any of us reg'lar folk tell whether the state of infrastructure is acceptable? Once in a while there is a bad failure but I can't tell whether it's neglect or error. I don't know what "maintenance" is and how much of it is needed, and I don't know what "inspection" reveals and whether it's good enough.

The only thing I know for sure is, making it more political will make us dumber and angrier about it and will lead to a greater number of failures. Somehow this part needs to be left strictly in the hands of engineering, and out of the hands of politicians and the general public.

02-26-2017, 05:54 PM	#106
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I think that's Austrian for ROAD CLOSED. Also, this is why U shaped valleys are evidence of glaciers and V shaped valleys are evidence of rivers. That is a lot of momentum. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-26-2017, 07:12 PM	#107
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It blew me away that it didn't follow the creek but just kept going straight. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-26-2017, 08:45 PM	#108
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	creek bed almost certainly full by that point, even the frothy tops of the flow are house high. the creek "overflowed". __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-26-2017, 11:03 PM	#109
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It came down the creek but instead of following the bed where the creek bent, it went straight across and down the road. The mass that was pushing overflowed over that hill and down to fill the creek, at the same time the far side was going over the roof of the house, but the point kept on moving straight until there were enough places for the pushing mass to fall off the sides. Amazing. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-26-2017, 11:06 PM	#110
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	The path of least resistance __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

02-26-2017, 11:47 PM	#111
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If I was down there I'd have a traction problem. Slippin' in shit... mine. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-27-2017, 05:01 PM	#112
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	That was wild. Slowest avalanche evah. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-27-2017, 11:40 PM	#113
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Boston Dynamics is getting really scary. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-28-2017, 03:08 PM	#114
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Wicked. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-28-2017, 05:27 PM	#115
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	__________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-03-2017, 11:01 AM	#116
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I've been fascinated, perhaps even obsessed, with the Oroville Dam. At first, I was trying to figure out if there really was a danger to the towns below when it was overflowing. But now, I'm focused on just how bad the damage was. The videos we all saw of the torrents of water coming down the broken spillway and over the emergency spillway were taken from so far away, the scale of the thing is just not possible to comprehend. This dam is massive. Even in this post, I try to show a picture of how massive it is, but files size restrictions won't let me. Look at just the EDGE of the damaged spillway. Now look for the people. How many do you see? None? Look closer. What I really encourage you to do is to check out the videos from drone footage from the California Department of Water Resources. Here' one from yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpXtMZwpDqs Make sure to watch on a computer in 1080 mode with the video at full screen. It's amazing. As of this writing, only 178 people before you have looked at this video. After it's over, take a look at some of their other videos. Then look at some before pictures of the spillway. It looked perfectly fine. Those fucking libtards in California, right? Ignoring that engineer's report that the dam spillway needed some maintenance. It's easy to think that this is just an isolated incident in California. But you've all seen those occasional news stories that come out that talk about old bridges that need work, and infrastructure, blah, blah, blah. There is an Oroville Dam type of infrastructure problem in basically every city and county in the US. Not a dam, of course, but a bridge, or a highway, or a metro system, or a tunnel, or an overpass. You know which ones. You pass them all the time and ignore the crumbling concrete and rusty rebar poking out. They are EVERYWHERE. This country was built by our grandparents, and its expiration date is here. Good thing we're fighting about illegal immigrants. But yeah, check out the videos. They are amazing. The scale.

03-03-2017, 04:57 PM	#117
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	This one shows the spillway that was damaged and the emergency spillway before and after the damage. Skip the first 1:15 __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-04-2017, 09:07 AM	#119
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The avalanche footage was amazing. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-04-2017, 09:45 AM	#120
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	How can any of us reg'lar folk tell whether the state of infrastructure is acceptable? Once in a while there is a bad failure but I can't tell whether it's neglect or error. I don't know what "maintenance" is and how much of it is needed, and I don't know what "inspection" reveals and whether it's good enough. The only thing I know for sure is, making it more political will make us dumber and angrier about it and will lead to a greater number of failures. Somehow this part needs to be left strictly in the hands of engineering, and out of the hands of politicians and the general public.

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