Wild West Politics?

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by sexobon

I addressed a current event about specific people in a particular situation. You tried to extrapolate that into a gross generality that's better suited to a pro-gun VS anti-gun thread the likes of which have already been done here ad nauseum. You simply weren't astute enough to realize that I'm not going to debate that here.


Anybody can buy a stinkin' badge. Do you really think they're going to take the time to authenticate each other's credentials while under fire?


I think you're projecting your own inabilities to process relevant information under such circumstances, to make timely and accurate judgment calls, on others. That's not an uncommon trait in the elderly.

Ouch !
Ouch !
Double Ouch!

Sorry sexobon. Us elderly do have our faults.
Guess I'll have to stay on the "What's making you happy today" thread.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by sexobon

You simply weren't astute enough to realize that I'm not going to debate that here.

I'm sorry footfootfoot, I just can't do it. Even with an insult to respond to.

What's wrong with me?

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by glatt

I'm sorry footfootfoot, I just can't do it. Even with an insult to respond to.

What's wrong with me?

More like, why are you addressing 3 foot?

And, don't throw self defeating statements to the wind.

You're just a damn nice guy.

[monster]

Originally Posted by sexobon

I think you're projecting your own inabilities to process relevant information under such circumstances, to make timely and accurate judgment calls, on others. That's not an uncommon trait in the elderly.

Weren't some of the victims elderly? And one nine?

[Undertoad]

There is no psychological test for gun ownership because that would be unthinkable. At some point in time there will be enough genetic markers found for schizophrenia that it can be tested for with a cheek swab. Until the time as such a test is affordable, we will have to wait.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

There is no psychological test for gun ownership because that would be unthinkable.

Employees at Wal-mart refused to sell him ammunition because they considered him that dangerous. It was that obvious. Wal-mart employees may have been sued for not making the sale. But refused to do so anyway.

Unfortunately, he just kept going to Wal-Marts until he found one that would sell him the ammo.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

There is no psychological test for gun ownership because that would be unthinkable. At some point in time there will be enough genetic markers found for schizophrenia that it can be tested for with a cheek swab. Until the time as such a test is affordable, we will have to wait.

Your argument is ridiculous. There are people being treated for schizophrenia right now. How were those people diagnosed? Do you think their doctors should wait for a genetic test?

If the Washington Times can already predict that the shooter is a nutcase, then the state could have known at the time he bought the gun.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Your argument is ridiculous. There are people being treated for schizophrenia right now. How were those people diagnosed? Do you think their doctors should wait for a genetic test?

Schizophrenics are diagnosed by psychiatrists. It is unthinkable to put every gun applicant through psychiatric testing. It would also be highly ineffective. Schizophrenics are normal until the illness shows up, often around Loughner's age. The only way to diagnose its eventual likelihood would be through genetic testing.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Schizophrenics are diagnosed by psychiatrists. It is unthinkable to put every gun applicant through psychiatric testing. It would also be highly ineffective. Schizophrenics are normal until the illness shows up, often around Loughner's age. The only way to diagnose its eventual likelihood would be through genetic testing.

So are you saying that only a psychiatrist could tell that this guy was not stable? I bet his neighbors wondered about him. I bet if you interviewed neighbors and co-workers, you'd get a picture.

[xoxoxoBruce]

His friends aquaintances, former classmates (he didn't have cow orkers), and neighbors, have been all over the news. They all said he was nuts... make that acted nuts, but that's not illegal.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

So are you saying that only a psychiatrist could tell that this guy was not stable?

From bits and pieces in the press, he was a loner. He had plans for years. But even locked them in a safe. Apparently said nothing to anyone.

It becomes a problem of what is your responsibility verses what will only get you sued. A question we should all have answered years ago. And still is not discussed or publically defined.

He scared many people in his math class. Was (as best I can tell) expelled. Should have been known to those that he obviously needed help. But this is again what the AZ Sheriff noted. We don't help the mentally deficient. We put them back on the streets. Another problem that has not been addressed.

Surprising though. He owned (or rented) a house. He must have had income. So much of this story is not told. Too little for anyone to make conclusions.

How obvious was Hinckley a threat to Reagan. As best I can tell, even that question was never answered.

[Pico and ME]

I'm really ambivalent about the gun issue, but I thought this was relevant.

[Pico and ME]

I think you're projecting your own inabilities to process relevant information under such circumstances, to make timely and accurate judgment calls, on others. That's not an uncommon trait in the elderly.

You're not really addressing his concern. I thought the same thing as Lamp.

(edited: I gotta stop pushing the reply button so quickly)

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

... I thought the same thing as Lamp. ...

[the Doctor] I'm so sorry. [/the Doctor]

[Pico and ME]