Merc - Wtf?

[sexobon]

I didn't get anything from Merc before he left. I was hoping for a machine gun or some hand grenades to use for hunting and fishing respectively; but, noooooooooo. All I got was dwellars sloppy seconds, those whom he had his way with then tossed aside. I am disappoint.

[footfootfoot]

I think that the cellar is weakened by the absence of Dwellars like Merc, Monster, Lookout, Classic (though not absent as much lately) Lumberjim, and a number of others. I often don't agree with them on certain political issues, but it is pretty boring to be surrounded by a bunch of replicants.

I am not as likely to engage in fierce debate, if I disagree with someone I rarely feel the need to get all butthurt and contentious about it, partly out of my personality and partly that I find it really hard to keep track of things and hard to "keep score" (one of the reasons why my marriage has gone on long past its "sell by" date--Not keeping track and score makes it hard to have arguments backed up by examples) But I am glad that there are posters here who are willing to argue and get all butthurt; it keeps things, to be cliche, real. Or at least realer-ish.

[Trilby]

I'll tell ya what, foot. If MaggieL ever comes back I'll pink pistol her to fucking Moonrise Kingdom with her own damn pistol!

then I shall laff at her and her best friend, the straw man whom I shall slowly and methodically burn to death in a sinister and delightful s'morish kind of way.

Howzat?

[Undertoad]

I had a thread where I specifically asked people to insult me.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I had a thread where I specifically asked people to insult me.

We're just too darn sophisticated and worldly to confine our insults to any one thread. We have to outsult each other across all of them.

[DanaC]

As I recall it was a very popular thread...:p

[classicman]

FWIW - none of the other generous people here were the subject of this thread. Several of them have done much for me personally as well. However, if you want to take those others like Jim, Big V, Bruce etc. and equate them and their actions to those of Merc. All I have to say is thank you, you proved my point for me. Unfortunately, instead of reflecting upon what I tried to say, you, as usual, chose to point fingers. Sad, but typical.

Lookout & Bruce, as usual, were far better in expressing much of what I tried to convey last night.

[xoxoxoBruce]

You were just wound up... and your father smelt of elderberries.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by classicman

FWIW - none of the other generous people here were the subject of this thread. Several of them have done much for me personally as well. However, if you want to take those others like Jim, Big V, Bruce etc. and equate them and their actions to those of Merc. All I have to say is thank you, you proved my point for me. Unfortunately, instead of reflecting upon what I tried to say, you, as usual, chose to point fingers. Sad, but typical.

Lookout & Bruce, as usual, were far better in expressing much of what I tried to convey last night.

Don't cry for me, Classictina.

God. You really are...what? How to express what I'm feeling right now? I'm feeling...confused because...because...

You are----DENSE!

That's it; you're dense if you think I think anybody actions or words or anything equates them with the mercster.
and Baby Boy, no, I DO NOT fucking 'reflect' on anything you 'try' to say because you are DENSE.

And the fingers I was pointing? They were at dwellars who have done good things. Maybe if Merc bought me a Beemer......nah. Still wouldn't like the asshole.

Merry Christmas, classsic. Birds of a feather and all that.

[Trilby]

Merc is clearly classicman's HERO.

Henceforth, he shall be known as Merc the Heroic.

He gave. He gave and gave and gave.


then, one day, he rode off into the sunset, never to be seen by the ignorant people who shunned his Brilliance and Generosity. *sobs* IF only we had KNOWN!!!

Yeah. I'm pretty bored today but still. I like to feel the blood flow just as much as the next gal.

[Trilby]

and bruce, as much as I appreciate your trying to deflect all the world's ills onto my shoulders, I can say the same thing: some people you like, some you don't and some you just don't give a shit about and it usually has NOTHING to do with any one particular thing about them---maybe you don't like the way I part my hair. All I know for sure is your opinion of me is none of my business and 99% of the time people are thinking of themselves and not the other guy----until the other guy A) really fucks up B) really does something cool or C) pisses a lot of people off. See? I DO get how the world works! I really do!

Now how about that cuddlefest?

[Ibby]

My disagreement with Bruce's "let's all be friends cause its not all about politics" is... it is all about politics. I see the world in terms of political motivations and realities. Politics, public policy, and institutional oppression are present in every facet of modern life. So, when I'm talking to a mostly-apolitical person who more or less sits somewhere on my end of the spectrum, we can talk about music, movies, tv, the weather, idgaf, whatever. But with someone on the far end of the spectrum - I can't talk to a racist, sexist, homophobic scumbag about just about anything, because their bigotry is always relevant. It's not "oh, you're okay except when you shit on minorities, so stop doing that so much so we can hang out" - it's "you're such a shitbird, you shit on minorities, you need to stop defending your bigotry before we can talk about anything else at all."

You all need to understand that intersectionality of oppressions is a BIG DEAL, and that microagressions are a BIG DEAL. You don't have to know you're saying something wrong - microaggressing - to be doing it, and you won't necessarily always see it when other people talk, either.
Racists, sexists, bigots of all stripes, will microagress nearly constantly, in conversations seemingly unrelated to bigotry. Calling them out isn't stifling the vibrancy or strength of our community - it's promoting it.
Why do you think The Cellar is so overwhelmingly populated by white people?
Why is making this a safe space for GSM people less important than making it a safe space for bigotry?
Why is having bigoted conservatives more important to the cellar - their growing absence is lamented more in this thread and across the board - than having more than a handful of PoC, more than a few queers, more participation from any and every minority group or oppressed people?
There are more points of view and diversity of opinion than "white liberal" and "white conservative". Where are all the people boo-hooing over the fact that we have way fewer active PoC than active conservatives?

[DanaC]

Ibs, if the Cellar was a safe place for bigotry it wouldn't erupt like a fucking guyser most of the times bigotry is openly expressed.

[Ibby]

But every time bigotry is pointed out there are just as many pro-bigotry (=anti-calling-it-out-lets-just-get-along) voices as anti-bigotry voices.
And every time someone laments the passing of bigots "other opinions" from our board, it makes the other bigots all that much more secure in staying.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Ibby

pro-bigotry (=anti-calling-it-out-lets-just-get-along)

No. They are not the same thing.