The Current Crop of Candidates - Page 11

lookout123 · 01-10-2008, 01:17 PM

yes, but that is the problem. the actual moderates are squeezed out during the primary process.

classicman · 01-10-2008, 01:50 PM

l did

Clodfobble · 01-10-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

If we get two good tickets, the number of voters might be decently high this year.

You've got that backwards. If we get two reasonable sets of candidates, people will stay home out of indifference. It's only when one or both tickets are very, very bad that people turn out in record numbers to make sure "the other guy" doesn't win.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-10-2008, 03:19 PM

That makes sense, it might just be my biased atmosphere right now.

classicman · 01-13-2008, 08:26 PM

POLL: Transformed by Iowa and N.H., '08 Kicks Off as a Free-for-All

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McCain's victory in New Hampshire has sharply boosted views of his qualifications and abilities alike: His rating within his party as its most electable contender has tripled; as strongest leader, it's doubled; and he's scored double-digit gains in trust to handle Iraq and terrorism. He's climbed into the lead in overall vote preference for the first time in ABC News/Washington Post polls in the 2008 campaign.

Obama likewise is reaping benefits from winning the Iowa caucuses and coming within two points of Clinton in New Hampshire. He now challenges her as the most electable candidate. He's severely eroded her reputation as its strongest leader and sharply improved his trust to handle key issues. And in overall preference Clinton and Obama now are all but tied, 42-37 percent among likely voters, a dramatic tightening.

But he's also soared in a key Democratic group -- African-Americans, who've switched from favoring Clinton by 52-39 percent a month ago to an even larger preference for Obama, 60-32 percent, today. While Obama also has drawn much closer among whites, preferences of blacks are highly significant in some upcoming races; in the past blacks have accounted for 47 percent of Democratic voters in South Carolina (Jan. 26) and Georgia (Feb. 5), 46 percent in Louisiana (Feb. 9) and more than a third in Virginia and Maryland (Feb. 12).

Clinton's 5-point advantage over Obama is not statistically significant at the customary 95 percent confidence level; it's 75 percent likely to be a real lead. She still leads among women, but now by 11 points, vs. a vast 39 points last month. And Obama now leads nationally among men, 9 points ahead of Clinton.

In the Republican contest, McCain does have a significant lead, with 28 percent support among likely Republican primary voters, more than double his 12 percent a month ago. Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney are little changed, at 20 percent and 19 percent respectively. But Giuliani's lost 10 points, dropping to 15 percent support, and Thompson's down to 8 percent -- for both, their lowest of the campaign so far.

Things are getting most interesting. There is a lot more info on the link.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-25-2008, 12:07 PM

ELECTILE Dysfunction:

The inability to become aroused over any of the choices
for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.

lookout123 · 01-25-2008, 02:51 PM

is there a pill we can take for this ED issue?

classicman · 01-27-2008, 04:13 PM

Anyone heard or seen this? I just got it in an email today....

Undertoad · 01-27-2008, 04:42 PM

The time is exactly, precisely right for the Clinton bombshell attack and it is increasingly critical that it come from neither Hillary nor Bill.

They play hardball, and they are extremely good at it.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-27-2008, 05:13 PM

Well, it couldn't be on youtube if it wasn't true, right?

richlevy · 01-27-2008, 06:56 PM

Allegations of blowjobs from strange men in the back of limousines? If word of this gets out, he's going to have to run as a Republican

ZenGum · 01-27-2008, 09:15 PM

@ Rich

Myeh, looked like BS to me. Did that guy look like he'd have a limo to you? And why publicly fess up to cocaine possession?
Probably just some attention whore put up to it by some political interests, maybe the Clinton faction, maybe the Republicans...

classicman · 01-27-2008, 09:16 PM

If he were a republican, he'd already have been removed from office.

richlevy · 01-27-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

If he were a republican, he'd already have been removed from office.

On the unsubstantiated word of one guy?

Heck, even Larry Craig is still in office and his accuser is a cop.

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01-25-2008, 12:07 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	ELECTILE Dysfunction: The inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-25-2008, 02:51 PM	#7
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	is there a pill we can take for this ED issue? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-27-2008, 04:13 PM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Anyone heard or seen this? I just got it in an email today.... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-10-2008, 03:19 PM	#4
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	That makes sense, it might just be my biased atmosphere right now.

01-27-2008, 04:42 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The time is exactly, precisely right for the Clinton bombshell attack and it is increasingly critical that it come from neither Hillary nor Bill. They play hardball, and they are extremely good at it.

01-27-2008, 05:13 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Well, it couldn't be on youtube if it wasn't true, right? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-27-2008, 06:56 PM	#11
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Allegations of blowjobs from strange men in the back of limousines? If word of this gets out, he's going to have to run as a Republican __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

01-27-2008, 09:15 PM	#12
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	@ Rich Myeh, looked like BS to me. Did that guy look like he'd have a limo to you? And why publicly fess up to cocaine possession? Probably just some attention whore put up to it by some political interests, maybe the Clinton faction, maybe the Republicans... __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

01-27-2008, 09:16 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	If he were a republican, he'd already have been removed from office. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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