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Old 04-11-2009, 02:13 PM   #1
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:39 PM   #2
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Old 04-11-2009, 02:42 PM   #3
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Old 04-11-2009, 10:20 PM   #4
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:40 PM   #5
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Don't we all?
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Old 04-12-2009, 12:30 AM   #6
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I'm just using you to get to Jinx.
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Old 04-12-2009, 12:01 AM   #7
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Tiki, don't be rude and disrespectful. Hopefully you don't treat people in real life like you do here. UT was at first giving helpfull advice, just because you don't want to take it, doesn't make him, or anyone else a jerk. If you don't like it ignore it. Just like you should ignore your roommate. I don't fucking care if you're on the internet, disrespect is disrespect no matter what form it takes. If you would talk to another person in real life like you did to UT, and Dana awhile ago, then you deserve to be slapped. Just because you're typing your disrespect rather than saying it, makes no difference. Its still rude and uncalled for.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:51 PM   #8
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Tiki, don't be rude and disrespectful. Hopefully you don't treat people in real life like you do here. UT was at first giving helpfull advice, just because you don't want to take it, doesn't make him, or anyone else a jerk. If you don't like it ignore it. Just like you should ignore your roommate. I don't fucking care if you're on the internet, disrespect is disrespect no matter what form it takes. If you would talk to another person in real life like you did to UT, and Dana awhile ago, then you deserve to be slapped. Just because you're typing your disrespect rather than saying it, makes no difference. Its still rude and uncalled for.
When someone is flippant and disrespectful toward me, I'll tell them so. If they persist, I'll tell them to fuck right off.

So you believe that physical violence is an appropriate response to harsh language? I hope you have no children.
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:49 AM   #9
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Tiki, Oh my God, I think you are my long lost twin!! I read through this thread and kept thinking "Yes! GO Tiki!"
I'd be that pissed too if someone was getting all chatty with me in the morning.

It appears to me that some people are trying to get a rise out of you? You have nothing to defend, your emotions and issues are totally normal and I truly do sympathize.

Oh- by the way- Hi everyone, I'm Dollface.
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:47 PM   #10
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Tiki, Oh my God, I think you are my long lost twin!! I read through this thread and kept thinking "Yes! GO Tiki!"
I'd be that pissed too if someone was getting all chatty with me in the morning.

It appears to me that some people are trying to get a rise out of you? You have nothing to defend, your emotions and issues are totally normal and I truly do sympathize.

Oh- by the way- Hi everyone, I'm Dollface.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:52 PM   #11
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Tiki, Oh my God, I think you are my long lost twin!! I read through this thread and kept thinking "Yes! GO Tiki!"
I'd be that pissed too if someone was getting all chatty with me in the morning.

It appears to me that some people are trying to get a rise out of you? You have nothing to defend, your emotions and issues are totally normal and I truly do sympathize.

Oh- by the way- Hi everyone, I'm Dollface.
Thanks Dollface, I appreciate it!
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:17 AM   #12
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If you have housemates they're going to annoy you from time to time.

If you post shit about your annoying housemates on the internet, people are going to give you their opinion.

If you don't like those opinions, ignore them. After all, they're just opinions.

FTR, I don't think UT was suggesting you should adjust your boundaries. I think he was telling you that if you've set your boundaries in such a way that others step on them, it's inevitable that you're going to be annoyed. I don't see him telling you to change them. Only that you decided what they are, and your option is to live with your choice, or change it. He then went on to suggest that he has learned that sometimes it's just easier to change your boundaries/expectations than to wish someone else would change theirs to suit you.
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:38 PM   #13
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FTR, I don't think UT was suggesting you should adjust your boundaries. I think he was telling you that if you've set your boundaries in such a way that others step on them, it's inevitable that you're going to be annoyed. I don't see him telling you to change them. Only that you decided what they are, and your option is to live with your choice, or change it. He then went on to suggest that he has learned that sometimes it's just easier to change your boundaries/expectations than to wish someone else would change theirs to suit you.
Exactly how I read it too Ali.
I have a similar situation with my mom, asking her to leave me alone doesn't work though, so I've had no choice except to learn to tune it out. If she asks a question and demands an answer, I usually say "I stopped paying attention." Either she gets pissed and walks off or she repeats the question if it was actually important. She'll talk to me from the other room, and I just say "Can't understand you" and go back to ignoring her.
As a side-note, we do have good and important conversations. She just likes to also try to convert me, or tell me how exactly I should live, that's when I start tuning her out.
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:48 PM   #14
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If you have housemates they're going to annoy you from time to time.

If you post shit about your annoying housemates on the internet, people are going to give you their opinion.

If you don't like those opinions, ignore them. After all, they're just opinions.

FTR, I don't think UT was suggesting you should adjust your boundaries. I think he was telling you that if you've set your boundaries in such a way that others step on them, it's inevitable that you're going to be annoyed. I don't see him telling you to change them. Only that you decided what they are, and your option is to live with your choice, or change it. He then went on to suggest that he has learned that sometimes it's just easier to change your boundaries/expectations than to wish someone else would change theirs to suit you.
I had to learn that lesson as well. I learned it from my AA sponsor when I lived in LA. Acceptance and boundaries and expectations are all linked. Boundaries (or lack of them rather) and expectations can make your life misearable if you let them. Acceptance, or learning how to accept people for who they are, helps. Everyone is going to have some habit or thing they do that might drive you crazy. Saying the Serenity Prayer can help in those situations.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:04 PM   #15
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If you have housemates they're going to annoy you from time to time.

If you post shit about your annoying housemates on the internet, people are going to give you their opinion.

If you don't like those opinions, ignore them. After all, they're just opinions.

FTR, I don't think UT was suggesting you should adjust your boundaries. I think he was telling you that if you've set your boundaries in such a way that others step on them, it's inevitable that you're going to be annoyed. I don't see him telling you to change them. Only that you decided what they are, and your option is to live with your choice, or change it. He then went on to suggest that he has learned that sometimes it's just easier to change your boundaries/expectations than to wish someone else would change theirs to suit you.

My housemate has a lot of habits that are annoying, but most of them don't interfere with my ability to be productive, so I let them slide.

For instance:
Her dog sheds everywhere and she rarely vaccuums. Maybe every couple of months.
Spoiled leftovers - I won't go into detail
Her dog eats more than twice as much as mine, but I buy dog food twice as often.
Her cat shits and pisses EVERYWHERE in the basement and she doesn't clean it up.
She tends to leave dirty pots in corners and never clean them out.
She is a junk-hoarder, and one end of the basement is completely packed with garbage that smells like cat pee.

So, you know, I go to vent about the one thing - being yammered at when I'm trying to get set up for work in the morning - that I just can't let slide, and a bunch of people treat me like I'm being unreasonable.

And it really doesn't matter what UT was TRYING to tell me, what he TOLD me was that I have control issues and should change my boundaries so that being interrupted and distracted while I'm trying to make my living stops bothering me.

Seems like if I was willing to move THAT boundary, I might not still be successfully self-employed, you know? Some boundaries help us accomplish our goals, and continuing to pay my bills is one of mine.
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