Self Policing Militia Summons

[TheMercenary]

I fully accept my responsibility but please note:

!. I contribute to the whole site.

2. I confine my issues to the current events and politics website and I have been rightly called out for transgressions which poured over to other threads, and I immediately stopped the discussion, which includes chat.

3. I have confined my angst to one other poster whom I believe is a political hack.

[lumberjim]

so even here, in this thread, you can't help it. you need to sit a few plays out and reflect, bub.

For the record, I am not a plant or "put" here by anyone...nor do I have any affiliation with the Obama administration, the DNC or the Democratic party, other than being a registered Democrat.

UT...I would be happy to have a moderated discussion on posting styles if you think that would be helpful.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I fully understand your point but I just couldn't see the value in having a discussion with a person that I disagree with on so many levels.

Right here is you missing the whole point of the Cellar.

Originally Posted by Redux

For the record, I am not a plant or "put" here by anyone...nor do I have any affiliation with the Obama administration, the DNC or the Democratic party, other than being a registered Democrat.

Unfortunately, your style makes that conclusion almost as logical as it is paranoid. You do stick to the talking points which is why the lefties stick with you. Because we don't know you, those of us on the center/right just assume you're recycling the info from the administration emails rather than digesting information and drawing your own conclusions.

To me personally, the complete loss of the politics forum has been a bummer. I need to read real peoples reactions to events to sort out where we're headed. Right now we're getting a sliver of the story from two highly partisan folks who give no indication that they care about this community or the people in it. I have not helped the situation by popping off on each of you when my annoyance over the nonsense gets too intense. I consider Shawnee and Classic to be casualties of this war. They each want to come in on the "right" side but because it isn't actually a discussion nuance is despised.

I'd like to see a separate Politics for Asshats forum that everyone can post in and our two offenders are limited to.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Redux

For the record, I am not a plant or "put" here by anyone...nor do I have any affiliation with the Obama administration, the DNC or the Democratic party, other than being a registered Democrat.

Oh get the ƒuck over yourself...are you ƒucking kidding me??? This is truly one of the biggest "WTF" posts I have ever read anywhere on the internet. This person has clearly lost all sense of context. Redux: NOBODY cares about your pointless scribblings on some backwater message board in the outer spiral arm of the vast interwebz. Everything posted on this board is DUST IN THE WIND. We, and I speak for all of us (correct me if I am wrong), enjoy posting here as a way of interacting with other human beings.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Flint

Oh get the ƒuck over yourself...are you ƒucking kidding me???

Hey fuckface, if you want to type the word fuck then type the word fuck. Quit dancing all around the word. Do you think you're special because your little f is a little different than everyone else's little f? Fucking elitist.

And Jebus GAWD I hope you're kidding too.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Hey fuckface, if you want to type the word fuck then type the word fuck.

I always assume that some people my have profanity filtering on their internet connection at work. I don't want to be the one who gets Cellar content blocked. So when I type ƒuck I do the "F" as Alt+0131 (hold down the Alt key and type 0131 on the numeric keypad).

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Flint

I always assume that some people my have profanity filtering on their internet connection at work. I don't want to be the one who gets Cellar content blocked. So when I type ƒuck I do the "F" as Alt+0131 (hold down the Alt key and type 0131 on the numeric keypad).

How's about just not using that word? Or some of the other ones? What is really being added by using profanity? If your argument is a load of crap, it's a load of crap. Cursing someone out isn't going to make it better.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Redux

For the record, I am not a plant or "put" here by anyone...nor do I have any affiliation with the Obama administration, the DNC or the Democratic party, other than being a registered Democrat.

Originally Posted by Flint

Oh get the ƒuck over yourself...are you ƒucking kidding me??? This is truly one of the biggest "WTF" posts I have ever read anywhere on the internet. This person has clearly lost all sense of context. Redux: NOBODY cares about your pointless scribblings on some backwater message board in the outer spiral arm of the vast interwebz. Everything posted on this board is DUST IN THE WIND. We, and I speak for all of us (correct me if I am wrong), enjoy posting here as a way of interacting with other human beings.

Huh? Redux was responding to a direct accusation from TheMercenary. He didn't say that out of the blue.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Huh? Redux was responding to a direct accusation from TheMercenary. He didn't say that out of the blue.

Oops. I don't necessarily always "read" the threads.

[lookout123]

Hasn't this been resolved yet?

[Undertoad]

Merc, your advantage in political threads is that you're more of a real person in non-political threads. You're a real person, compared to Redux, because none of us get a sense of who he is in real life.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Merc, your advantage in political threads is that you're more of a real person in non-political threads. You're a real person, compared to Redux, because none of us get a sense of who he is in real life.

UT....I dont feel it is necessary to share my personal life, nor should it be, in order to contribute to discussions...If I do want to share, it will most likely be in a PM....but its your house.

I'll be happy share a bit about my professional life if that would be helpful.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Redux

UT....I dont feel it is necessary to share my personal life, nor should it be, in order to contribute to discussions...If I do want to share, it will most likely be in a PM....but its your house.

I'll be happy share a bit about my professional life if that would be helpful.

I, for one, refuse to place any merit on your professional experience BECAUSE you are so adamant about remaining anon. you can't have your cake and eat it too.

[BigV]

Some cherry picking trying to confine my observations to Redux and some quotes about and to him.

Originally Posted by monster

Redux for the Ban.

I disagree.

Originally Posted by monster

it's the only way in your case. We're all sick of you bringing shit from one forum and wiping it all over the board. Even here You are a professional dingleberry. You certainly need to use that as a use title if you don't get banned,

More of the exact behavior described as the problem, what hypocrisy. His "shit" isn't all over the board. Your complaint is that he's so monomaniacal about politics--it just doesn't go all over. You're wrong on the facts. "Professional dingleberry"? Real mature. Way to set an example. Way to be the change you want to see.

Originally Posted by monster

DON'T RESPOND! Duh! Yes it does address the problem. no response = no counter-response. Probelm Solved. Only a Dingleberry wouldn't see that.

more shouting... *yawn*

Originally Posted by monster

hooyah. ban. Your opinion of yourself is way too high. And your maturity level way too low. unless you are actually 12.

now self esteem is bannable? etc, etc.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

No we aren't.

I, too, am not one of the all you proclaim are tired of his shit. You don't speak for me.

Originally Posted by monster

ARe you diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome? Or anything on that spectrum?

You're seriously misreading his posts. Completely so.

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

I don't see that. It was pertinent to the discussion and civilly phrased. How was that cause for banning?

I agree. It's not.

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

*point 1*Except for that one time you were given suggestions, oh, and the other time, and the one after that, too. Your posts would improve on their own if you actually chose to be a member of the community, because you would actually know the people you were talking to, and that whole "the internet turns everyone into assholes" thing wouldn't be a factor anymore.


*point 2*This is a major part of your problem. Every post is full of this indignant "Tell me how" and "Give me one reason" and "Please explain to me how you" stuff. It's the way a teenager argues with an authority figure. If you have a point, make it. If you have evidence against the other person's point, show it. Anything that starts with "Please tell me how" is useless bickering.


*point 3*And this is the other major part of your problem. Again, like a teenager, you keep falling back on this "he started it" concept, that you expect us to respond "fairly" to you and your adversaries, or you're going to throw more temper tantrums. No one gives a shit. It's been explained to you repeatedly that when you "respond in kind," you make yourself the asshole, end of story.

*point 1*
Redux **is** a member of this community. He is highly unwelcome by some especially vocal members. Many are neutral, and some of us, like me, appreciate his posts for their content.

*point 2*
I hope you're kidding when you make this point. I ask all the time for help, for clarification of other people's points and ideas. It is flatly wrong to say that anything that starts with "please tell me how" is useless bickering. Your whole point here just sounds cranky, which is way out of character for you Clodfobble.

*point 3*
I agree with this point. There's a limit to the validity to "he started it" as an excuse for one's actions as an adult. That limit is greater than zero, and it can be a good starting point for an explanation as to why things started to go off the rails, but only if someone cares. Apparently you don't, so it has little value to you. Fair enough.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I strongly disagree. I think there IS something to see here. Several people have expressed their displeasure with a disruptive presence within the community, and ignoring the problem will only drive away the valued participants and leave those of you who chose not to fight in the company of the few problem posters.

You are right in that it is not a moderator's role to weed out the unpopular amongst us. However, it is the Admin's role to foster an environment that is conducive to maximum participation by all members. Or at least, should be in my opinion. When a few are persistently and apparently willfully ruining that environment, and are unwilling or unable to stop it.....they need to be stopped. Again, IMO.

If, after all of this, Ute decides that inaction is the best course, then so be it. And you'll have more of the same. Won't that be lovely.

The nothing wolf is talking about is bannable behavior. I know you don't like Redux's ideas and his posts. You've said so clearly and repeatedly. I do like Redux's ideas and posts. Even you say the role of the moderator is not to ban unpopular members and I strongly agree with that statement. Redux is unpopular with some and popular with others. Redux is **NOT** willfully ruining our environment any more than you are or I am.

Heh. Remember, you actually have the power, yourself, to "stop it". Don't listen to it.

Originally Posted by Redux

For the record, I am not a plant or "put" here by anyone...nor do I have any affiliation with the Obama administration, the DNC or the Democratic party, other than being a registered Democrat.

UT...I would be happy to have a moderated discussion on posting styles if you think that would be helpful.

and

Originally Posted by Redux

UT....I dont feel it is necessary to share my personal life, nor should it be, in order to contribute to discussions...If I do want to share, it will most likely be in a PM....but its your house.

I'll be happy share a bit about my professional life if that would be helpful.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Merc, your advantage in political threads is that you're more of a real person in non-political threads. You're a real person, compared to Redux, because none of us get a sense of who he is in real life.

and

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I, for one, refuse to place any merit on your professional experience BECAUSE you are so adamant about remaining anon. you can't have your cake and eat it too.

These two pairs of posts elicit a rueful laugh from me.

OF COURSE Redux is a REAL PERSON. Are you kidding me? Redux, I caution you to dispense details of your personal life with the knowledge that they will never be private again. They will be known widely or less widely, but they'll be public forever. And even if you gave all of us here all of your details, how could we say even then that we "knew" you? monster imagined in a different thread recently how she'd characterized someone as "most likely to become a serial killer". I believe she said it in jest and in private, but when she found out later that the circumstances in this person's life were dramatically different from what she'd previously and incorrectly understood, she understood her assessment was unfair.

I doubt your situation is different. We know little about you but you're a real person to me. For those who demand more "proof" about your reality, I say keep your cake and let them keep their ignorance.