Guns don't kill people ....

[sexobon]

If Florida would take the guns away from its law enforcement officers, then cop wannabes wouldn't have them to shoot people with either. Problem solved.

[Aliantha]

I thought it was 'Floorduh'...

[Big Sarge]

I always thought it was legal to shoot someone wearing a hoodie. I guess I might need to change our policy & procedures manual.

[ZenGum]

Sarge, you've jumped from "should be" to "is".

Nice to see ya, BTW.

[TheMercenary]

Jessie Jackson is such a cock sucker...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,2131299.story

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Do they? I think they're at record lows. But the latest data I could find was from 2008, so that may have changed.

Could be, I have no Idea, and all the better, because the point was to make a statement as stupid as the one I quoted.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

If he's found not guilty because of "stand your ground", rather than some technicality or exculpatory information yet to be mentioned, it may be useful for altering the "stand your ground" law for the better.

The Florida legislator that introduced that law in the first place, is saying it's being distorted and abused by the police, and he intends to amend it to make that clear.

[sexobon]

In The Hoodie (to the tune of In The Ghetto)

As the lights shine on a warm and mild Florida night
A neighboring young man is doin' alright in his hoodie

And his mama doesn't know 'bout something that she doesn't need
It's that his soul is soon to be freed from his hoodie

People, don't you understand they need a helping hand?
Or this will surely be a no man's land some day

Take a look at you and me, are we too blind to see
Do we simply turn our heads and look the other way?

Well the world turns and the young neighbor man in hooded clothes
Walks down the street as a warm breeze blows o'er his hoodie

And his temper flares under a watchful eye
And he learns to resist and he learns how to die in his hoodie

Then one day in desperation a community protests away. They call for an arrest, call for a trial, try to dispel the claims, but they don't get far
And his mama cries

As people rally around the young neighbor man
Who was killed in the street with nothing in his hand but his hoodie

Though a young neighbor man died on that warm and mild Florida night
Another local young man is feelin' alright wearin' his hoodie

And his mama cries.

[footfootfoot]

That is awesome, sexobon.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

If he's found not guilty because of "stand your ground", rather than some technicality or exculpatory information yet to be mentioned, it may be useful for altering the "stand your ground" law for the better.

Agreed. Although this case has NOTHING to do with the "Stand your Ground" law.

This case is about some asswipe who stalked a kid, chased him down and then shot him after instigating the altercation.
Show me ANYTHING in the "Stand your Ground" law that covers that reality.
Using that law is an abuse of it, by his lawyer.

Originally Posted by wolf

He isn't. He's Hispanic. Or at least half-Hispanic.
If he were white-white instead of a deep beige, protesters would be burning down DisneyWorld.

Yup. Stop interjecting your damn facts or the extremists will have nothing with which to argue.

Originally Posted by wolf

Tain't necessarily so.

Listen carefully to the 911 tape, ignore the inflammatory comment for the time being.

the 911 dispatcher on this incident who told him not to follow the teen. Could he have provoked the situation that lead to the shooting?

A) The dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that. He never specifically said NOT to do so.

Stand Your Ground <> Stalk Through The Neighborhood.

Agreed.

Listen to the audio yourself. See if you hear what the asswipe says at 1:52 on the audio.

You tell me if he says "fucking coons"

This POS hunted this kid down and killed him intentionally. He was looking for glory and wanted an altercation.
IMO, he deserves all that he gets ... and I hope he rots in jail for it.

[HungLikeJesus]

It's more the intersection of grammar and engineering.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

It's more the intersection of grammar and engineering.

"Engineers who are poets" Next, on Dr. Phil

[Lamplighter]

Slowly it turns...

LA Times
Tina Susman and Molly Hennessy-Fiske
3/25/12

Trayvon Martin case sheds light on 'stand your ground' issues

George Zimmerman has so far avoided arrest in the killing
of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin by using Florida’s "stand your ground" defense,
but the case has forced even supporters of the statute to confront
what critics say are gaping holes that leave it open to wildly disparate interpretations.
<snip>

[sexobon]

@ Happy Monkey

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Trayvon Martin

Go, go, go NRA

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Abortions increase.

Go, go, go, Democrats.

XoB reflected Lamplighter's method and format back at him to make this point:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Could be, I have no Idea, and all the better, because the point was to make a statement as stupid as the one I quoted. ...

You missed that point and distracted from it by challenging the content thus going off on a tangent.

Originally Posted by sexobon

Oregon Sets Assisted Suicide Record

Go, go, go Oregonians

I also reflected Lamplighter's method and format back at him to reiterate xoB's point. You missed the point again and went off on a tangent. Now it's been explained to you twice.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Right. Zimmerman did the shooting. Zimmerman killed in the name of security. Treyvon Martin was killed by Zimmerman. Of course I

Actually, you introduced the flippant between Treyvon Martin and euthanasia: ...

All besides the point.

I know you as a contrarian more interested in antagonizing certain other personalities than in valid discussion and the type of person who will, to that end, even go so far as to present absurdities and suggest that it's what another person is implying just to bait them:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

( Zimmerman providing "security" for his neighborhood)If he'd done what? Approached the armed man who's been following him around and asked him for protection from... what? Again, what are you on about?

This is the last time I'm going to indulge you.

Even in States with concealed carry permits, brandishing a weapon is illegal. I've not seen evidence that this was done; or, that Martin had actually seen Zimmerman's weapon early on in their interaction. The stand your ground philosophy taken literally would have worked well for Martin as there was no need for him to approach Zimmerman whether Zimmerman was armed or not. That Florida is a concealed carry state was likely known to Martin; also, that Zimmerman could be armed. Martin might have been able to outrun Zimmerman; but, he couldn't outrun a bullet. Remaining in place and offering Zimmerman diffusing conversation was a viable option. Putting himself in a position of dependency by asking for Zimmerman's protection may have given Zimmerman the sense of control he needed to avoid his resorting to using a weapon. What did Martin need protection from?!!! Why his own emotions of course, Martin's fight or flight response was a contributing factor to his own death.

HM, this kind of in-depth discussion is generally of interest to men. Of what interest could it possibly be to you, Happy?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by sexobon

XoB reflected Lamplighter's method and format back at him to make this point:

You missed that point and distracted from it by challenging the content thus going off on a tangent.

I also reflected Lamplighter's method and format back at him to reiterate xoB's point. You missed the point again and went off on a tangent. Now it's been explained to you twice.

When attempting to use an analogous form to demonstrate a problem with an argument, make sure you're actually being analogous! In xoxoxoBruce's case, it wasn't actually true. If you apply his analogy to Lamplighter's, you would be claiming that Trayvon Martin hadn't been shot. In your case, assisted suicides are the expected result of legalizing assisted suicide. Applying your analogy to Lamplighter's, we are expecting more innocent people to be shot due to the NRA.

Putting himself in a position of dependency by asking for Zimmerman's protection may have given Zimmerman the sense of control he needed to avoid his resorting to using a weapon. What did Martin need protection from?!!! Why his own emotions of course, Martin's fight or flight response was a contributing factor to his own death.

If that's your last word, I won't miss you "indulging" me.

[HungLikeJesus]

But had he seen his doodle?