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Old 02-12-2007, 08:03 AM   #1
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Maybe kill em first and then chop their hands? To be sure?
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:21 AM   #2
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Maybe kill em first and then chop their hands? To be sure?
Is this really Saddam Hussein?
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:49 AM   #3
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Is this really Saddam Hussein?
Shhh, only you know it...
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:52 AM   #4
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Theoretically possible, but so is the chance of the Earth getting devoured by a von Neuman machine. Not too likely to occur, but theoretically possible.
Nope, it'll be a HAARP machine
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:53 AM   #5
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Bingo! you're catching on. If I am attacked or if I were to be robbed again, I would have the ability to defend myself. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not a raving bloodthirsty flesh eating gun rights fanatic, merely another human being looking out for myself and my property.

I believe I answered this ludicrous statement before.

You say that the criminal would be easily identifiable. How? How would the criminal be easily identifiable before he pulls his weapon? They don't all run about in black masks and waving Tommy guns in the air. You can't be sure that a person is a criminal and out to do you harm until they voice their threat.

Seeing as how I've already been in a situation where a firearm came in handy against 3-1 odds, I'm already 100% ahead of your game on this topic.

Question: Because the majority of rapists are male, should all men have to give up their penises?

Question: Because all D.U.I.s only when you mix alcohol and vehicles, should we ban cars or alcohol?

Responsibility lies with the owner and operator, not with an inanimate object.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:19 PM   #6
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Bingo! you're catching on. If I am attacked or if I were to be robbed again, I would have the ability to defend myself. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not a raving bloodthirsty flesh eating gun rights fanatic, merely another human being looking out for myself and my property.
I wasn't arguing that. The point that you missed was that your needing a gun to defend yourself is as likely as the police being able to "round up every last one out of the hands of every citizen".

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You say that the criminal would be easily identifiable. How?
They'll be the ones with the handguns.

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How would the criminal be easily identifiable before he pulls his weapon? They don't all run about in black masks and waving Tommy guns in the air. You can't be sure that a person is a criminal and out to do you harm until they voice their threat.
How can you tell anyone is a criminal before he commits a crime? A rapist doesn't wear a mask, nor does an embezzler, yet those activities are illegal, aren't they. The handgun-using criminal will be easily identified as a criminal when they draw their handgun, and maybe can be dealt with before they use the handgun. Why will it be easier to identify a criminal? Because there'll be no question that the guy with the handgun in his hand might be a law abiding citizen just drawing his handgun for perfectly legal reasons - if he has a handgun, he's a criminal. No brainer.

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Seeing as how I've already been in a situation where a firearm came in handy against 3-1 odds, I'm already 100% ahead of your game on this topic.
How old are you? How many times? Do the math: once every "X" years you'll need some sort of protection, and it doesn't have to be a handgun. And remember, the next time you shoot into the ground, one of the generator-stealing-gun-in-the-truck guys might have his handgun with him, and turn and fire, killing you before you get anything but the warning shot off. And then there's your family and loved ones, without you, because you had to reserve the right to have a handgun, which makes it easier for the generator stealers to have a handgun. All this over a generator that you use once every 2-3 years. Hmmmmm. Is it worth it?

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Question: Because the majority of rapists are male, should all men have to give up their penises?
No. Penises have other uses, handguns don't. And even misused penises don't kill people. Have you ever heard of someone being "dicked to death"?

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Question: Because all D.U.I.s only when you mix alcohol and vehicles, should we ban cars or alcohol?
Just the combination of the two. They each have other uses, handguns don't.

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Responsibility lies with the owner and operator, not with an inanimate object.
And consider yourself partially responsible for allowing handguns to be owned and operated by irresponsible people.
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Old 02-14-2007, 03:04 AM   #7
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The attempted generator stealing story is in this other thread.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:24 PM   #8
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your argument holds no water.

IMO: That river never formed in any of your arguments

I believe I answered this ludicrous statement before.

I'm already 100% ahead of your game on this topic.
These commentaries really don't help your argument, especially since they're bullshit.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:05 PM   #9
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These commentaries really don't help your argument,
At this point I'm considering buying a gun out of spite, simply because your continued argument is so annoying. A handgun goddamnit...
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:15 PM   #10
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At this point I'm considering buying a gun out of spite, simply because your continued argument is so annoying. A handgun goddamnit...
Because you don't agree? Tell me more.
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:28 PM   #11
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At this point I'm considering buying a gun out of spite, simply because your continued argument is so annoying. A handgun goddamnit...
BTW, you've hurt my feelings.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:37 AM   #12
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At this point I'm considering buying a gun out of spite, simply because your continued argument is so annoying. A handgun goddamnit...
You know what, if I would live in the good ol' US and A, I probably would do the same. Preferably an AK47 or a riot gun, the more deadly the better. Shoot first, ask questions later.

Because EVERY fucking moron has one. Live as the Romans live.

Having said that, I'm glad where I live I don't have to and I sincerely hope that it will never have get to that stage, just as these stupid liability cases, which fortunately doesn't seem to settle down here as well, thank God. I guess it's the price of civil indepence and I prepared to pay that.
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:12 PM   #13
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Bloody anarchists! ( did I spell that correctly )
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:08 AM   #14
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:12 PM   #15
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Hey, who are you calling a spider?
Well if I called you a spider, that would be short for rock spider which is slang for an old man who likes to have sex with young boys.

So no, I wasn't calling anyone here a spider.
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