Pedophilia Irish Style

[tw]

From CatholicCulture.org on 13 Feb 2011:

An editorial in the New York Times argues that the US bishops have failed to recover their credibility in the aftermath of the sex-abuse scandal. Citing the recent report of a grand jury on the Philadelphia archdiocese, the Times observes that there are still widespread suspicions that the bishops have not removed all accused abusers from active ministry.

So the NY Times, a responsible new service, reported it and wrote an editorial. How can that be when Fox News, so fair and balanced, will not even discuss it?

The Pittsburg Tribune asks on 15 Feb 2011:

Did the same thing happen in Pittsburgh?

We are forced to ask this most difficult question given that the Philly grand jury directly implicates Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua, who stepped down as the prelate of the Philadelphia archdiocese in 2003 and is the former bishop of Pittsburgh.

The grand jury said it "reluctantly" decided to not file charges against Cardinal Bevilacqua because it did not have enough evidence. But he is accused of transferring problem priests to new parishes without divulging prior sexual-abuse allegations.

Did the same thing happen under Bevilacqua's watch in the Diocese of Pittsburgh between 1983 and 1987? It is an eminently fair question given the alleged audacity of the inaction in the Philadelphia cases.

The National Catholic Register, part of EWTN News (a Catholic Church media company) discusses what news organizations reported:

While Church law and the criminal justice system stipulate that the accused are “innocent until proven guilty,” media coverage of last week’s clergy abuse scandals in Philadelphia and Los Angeles gives credence to an opposing principle: The accused are guilty until proven innocent.

Or ABC News on 14 Feb 2011 entitled Suit:Pa. Catholic Leaders Failed to Protect Kids:

A civil lawsuit filed Monday against the Archdiocese of Philadelphia by a man who said two priests had sexually abused him as a child may signal a new era in church-abuse litigation in Pennsylvania. ...
The priests charged with rape by the grand jury are not the same ones named as perpetrators in the man's lawsuit. However, both the grand jury report and the civil suit accuse Monsignor William Lynn, the secretary for clergy for the archdiocese from 1992 to 2004, with failing to protect children from known or suspected molesters.

Meanwhile, the fair and balanced Fox News reported what? Oh. When preaching to the brainwashed, only tell them what they need to hear.

Meanwhile ABC News also reports in "Ex-Dutch Cardinal Denies Cover-up for Abuse Priest":

Some 2,000 cases of sexual abuse are being investigated by an independent commission, headed by a former government minister, set up last year when reports of abuse in the church became a worldwide scandal.
But the Dutch church, which has more than 4 million members, first set up an internal body to deal with abuse allegations in 1995. Known as Help and Law, it has been accused of lacking transparency and accountability.
Simonis was archbishop of Utrecht from 1983 to 2007, and was made a cardinal in 1985.

What did Fox News report about pedophilia? Why so much silence?

Oh. Reporting on pedophiila by conservatives is fair and balanced - when only Fox News is moderate and everyone else is a pinko extremist.

Always trust your kid to horny priests. Fox says it is safe.

[tw]

From The Economist of 10 Feb 2011 entitled “Chapter 11, verse 8
Facing mounting lawsuits, Catholic dioceses turn to bankruptcy”

Milwaukee has a particularly tortured history. It has been rife with scandal—a Father Lawrence Murphy was alleged to have abused some 200 deaf students, for example, and a convicted priest was sent to work with children in California. Yet civil suits have only recently proved successful. Plaintiffs in other states have charged the church with negligent supervision of priests, but this argument found little traction in Wisconsin’s courts. Victims made progress, at last, in 2007. The archdiocese, plaintiffs claimed, had committed fraud in the 1970s and 1980s by misrepresenting such priests to future victims. The state Supreme Court let that claim stand.

A wave of lawsuits followed and, on January 4th, the archdiocese filed for bankruptcy. The filing puts all the suits on hold. Jeff Anderson, the plaintiffs’ lawyer, argues that the bankruptcy was timed to avoid an embarrassing trial. “It is part of a pattern,” says Mr Anderson, who has brought hundreds of suits against various bits of the church, including one against the Vatican. The archdiocese says this is nonsense. Bankruptcy will simply allow it to deal with creditors equitably and settle claims more quickly than in a trial.

But the bankruptcy will hardly be speedy. All bankruptcies are complex, but those for a church are much more so, explains Jonathan Lipson, a law professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Financial statements filed in the bankruptcy court on February 7th presage fights to come. The archdiocese presented $40.7m in assets, compared with $98.4m in its financial report last year. The discrepancy, the archdiocese says, is because certain assets are held in restricted trusts,

Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, the state of Pennsylvania had passed a law that says charges cannot be filed two years after a priest raped a kid. The report bluntly says a 10 year old victim cannot file charges after the age of 12.

Remember who has power and who is the victim here. Pedophillia is safe when the Pope and his Cardinals can manipulate the laws. The Pope ordered all Catholic American law makers to change American laws to conform with Church doctrine.

Why is it so hard to even get excommunicated?

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

Always trust your kid to horny priests. Fox says it is safe.

Oh, but without saying a word about it.

Way to try and have it both ways, lamebrain. "A liar needs a good memory." --Quinilian

[Sheldonrs]

Just my opinion but if you deliberately harm a child in any way, priest or not, you should have your genitals ripped from your body and get them shoved in your mouth and made to choke to death on them.
No trial, no appeals and no cover-ups.
And any church, priest or Pope who allows this to happen should suffer the same fate.

[Shawnee123]

An ewwwlegal contract, certainly.

[tw]

From the NY Times of 25 Jul 2011 is the Catholic Church all but openly encouraging pedophilia. Never forget that this Church has also ordered it disciples to impose Church doctrine onto all American laws and citizens. To even promote a hate of gays. And will not even apologize for its political agendas. Promoting such hate is how extremists obtain power.

Vatican Recalls Ambassador to Ireland Over Abuse Report
The government report, conducted by an independent investigative committee and released July 13, found that clergy in the rural Irish diocese of Cloyne did not act on complaints against 19 priests from 1996 to as recently as 2009. More damningly, it said that the Vatican had encouraged bishops to ignore child-protection guidelines adopted by Irish bishops in 1996 that included “mandatory reporting” of abuse to civil authorities.

The report caused a firestorm in Ireland, a country long dominated by the church. For the first time Irish lawmakers aimed their ire at the Vatican directly, and not at local church leaders.

It is no accident that the Catholic Church in Philadelphia was doing same; to basically protect pedophiles at the expense of others.

The prime minister told Parliament last week that, “The rape and torture of children were downplayed or ‘managed’ to uphold instead, the primacy of the institution, its power, standing and ‘reputation.’ ” Mr. Kenny added that the Vatican had not listened “to evidence of humiliation and betrayal” with compassion but had instead chosen “to parse and analyze it with the gimlet eye of a canon lawyer.” The Irish parliament also passed a motion denouncing the Vatican’s role in “undermining child protection frameworks.” ...

The Cloyne Report is Ireland’s fourth on the pedophilia scandal since 1994, when the government fell over the state’s failure to confront a known pedophile priest. But it is the first to point a finger directly at Rome. It cited a confidential letter by a former Vatican ambassador to Ireland who said the child-protection policies adopted in 1996 violated canon law and dismissed them as “a study document.”

The report said that letter “effectively gave individual Irish bishops the freedom to ignore the procedures” and “gave comfort and support” to priests who “dissented from the stated Irish church policy.”

Cardinals in Philadelphia did same. One was not prosecuted due to Alzheimer’s that impeded his ability to defend himself. The current Cardinal has been removed. Let's not mince words. Because he was exposed by grand juries of all but encouraging pedophilia. His closest advisors on this issue were arrested for protecting pedophiles.

Most DAs in America are not doing their job - opening grand jury investigations of their local dioceses. This is not a local problem. This is a world wide attitude created at the highest levels of the church. If for no other reason, because the Church cannot be bothered to address it. If Satan exists, he also lives in Vatican City.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Tw would like us to believe he never crabs at anyone or anything that isn't "extremist" in his eyes.

I read your little prediction up-thread, tw. Consider it unfulfilled.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I read your little prediction up-thread, tw.

You can read? Thomas Barnett will appreciate learning that you got past chapter two.

[tw]

Racketeering in pedophilia means other corruption and questionable practices are being exposed in the Catholic Church. The Church is one of America's largest employers at 1 million. And a major contributor to charity. But its money is so vast that the majority of funds that reconstructs Vatican City comes from the US. Probably 60% of Vatican funds come from the US.

Most states in America still have laws that all but protect pedophilia. The few who changed laws include California and Delaware (adjacent to the Philadelphia Archdiocese that was proven to be protecting pedophiles). As a result, courts have now discovered massive fraud or outright financial mismanagement in dioceses in CA and DE.

For example, priest pension funds are commingled into accounts also being used to lobby state legislatures to not change the pedophile laws. Bishops are now "suppressing" parishes to transfer parish funds to a diocese that would otherwise face bankruptcy. Diosceses need those funds to settle civil court judgments for protecting pedophiles. Otherwise they must open their books to bankruptcy proceedings.

St Ann's Parish in Wilmington DE was wiring money to a Mellon Bank account specifically to keep funds away from the diocese account in Citizens Bank. To keep money even in a separate state.

Since the church is not required to submit to audits, then funds are being diverted from use intended by donors to frustrate creditors with legitimate claims including nuns and priests. So questionable are Church finances that the US Treasury forced all US banks (ie JP Morgan) to close all Vatican accounts. The San Diego special investigation found priests removing major funds from banks and storing them in the rectory safes - to keep money from pedophile victims.

Documents leaked by the Pope's Butler (and probably many high Vatican officials) suggest this fiscal irresponsibility goes well beyond negligence. That fraud at the highest levels may be routine.

Civil suites have resulted in $3.3 billion in settlements for pedophilia. We know that if the church had to pay the equivalent of what Penn State was fined, then the settlements probably would exceed $700 billion. That addresses a national debt that needs to cut $1trillion over ten years.

Only eight dioceses (including San Diego, Tuscan, and Milwaukee) have filed for bankruptcy; forcing them to open their books. Only 10 states (Arizona, Illinois, New York, Florida, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Ohio, and California) are considering laws to make pedophilia prosecutable. Hawaii recently passed reforms. The diocese of Honolulu may be applying for bankruptcy due to a court decision in May. Other diocese are estimated to be spending from $100,000 to over $1 million a year in lobbying to stop pedophilia law reform. CA passed reforms. Then found pedophilia so rampant as to now be considering further reforms.

We know GM claimed profits ($tens of millions) by simply shorting their pension funds ($billions). Same has been ongoing in the Boston archdioceses from 1986 to 2002. Boston even ran a special charity drive that raised between $70million and $90 million only for clergy retirement funds. Even that money never went into pension funds. Even Satan does not short his employee pension funds?

Wilmington DE surrendered its entire $77million pension fund to a pedophile case it quietly settled in February 2011. So why are shenenigans acceptable? First, the Church is not regulated by the Employee Retirement Income Security Act. Clergy has no legal recourse to protect themselves or their pensions from a Church exempted from responsibility. Estimates say 75 to 80% of clergy retirement funds are underfunded. By a Church that is inventing new income streams (see muni bonds below) and is still suffering increasing debts - even while most pedophilia cases cannot be prosecuted.

Who is the largest owner of Manhattan real estate? The Church. That is also actively manipulating the books to hide their assets. As exposed by a special commission created by a San Diego judge. She was so "vexed by this and other shenanigans on the part of the diocese that she ordered a special investigation into church finances" - The Economist. As a result, the church suddenly found $200 million. If not, the bishop, chancellor of the diocese, and its lawyers all faced contempt charges. After all, the purpose of the Church is to protect its top management. god said so.

In Wilmington DE, a judge said parishes have the right to sue the diocese for breach of fiduciary duty. Fiscal responsibility in the Wilmington diocese was just as questionable. However what clergy will sue his employer. After all, just down the road from The Cellar, Sister Strange was fired from a Catholic run home for boys because she reported on continuing sexual activities of a priest assigned there after the Church 'cured' him of pedophilia. Why would any priest sue when his training and future employment is 100% defined for and determined by the Church?

Prosecutor are reporting frustration. Obviously church finances are irresponsible - probably fraudulent. But whistle blowers will not step forward for obvious reasons. Its like asking a hit man to blow the whistle on those who put out the contracts. He would have no job and no retirement funds.

Another trick. An insurance policy is an asset. To hide money, the Catholic Mutual Group sells the insurance. CMG policies are setup to not be an asset in bankruptcy proceedings. Another trick used by the Church to hide funds from their victims.

Philadelphia is the only jurisdiction that has actually gone after the source of pedophilia - the church itself. Most all claims against the church have only been civil suits. Philadelphia not only published the Church's list of known pedophiles (none can be prosecuted in Pennsylvania). "In March the former chief financial officer of the archdioceses of Philadelphia was arrested and charged with embezzling more that $900,000 between 2005 and 2011. Hundreds of priests have been disciplined for taking more than a little "walking round money"... " This was after Lyn Abraham should have put the fear of god into that archdiocese. But then, such investigations and prosecutions also do not scare the mafia. Another racketeering operation.

Now the Church is using State and Municipal bonds to finance their increasing debts. How can a religious institution use government bonds? This is now permitted in 50 dioceses in 30 states. In part, because the same 'powers that be' that have refused to reform pedophile laws have also deemed many church assets as government or public-sector projects. "Local and Federal authorities are loth to investigate mainstream religious groups for fear of the political consequences." Catholic institutions have raised $12 billion through municipal bonds this past decade when George Jr said it was good for government to contribute to religious institutions.

"In one case, in San Jose, the money went to buy chancery offices for the bishop." - The Economist.

Why do so many entertain their emotions rather than view facts. This was asked in another thread. Why is pedophilia all but legal? We who are emotional will ignore the widespread criminal activities of Church institutions. After all, its a Church. So we feel it must be good - despite decades of evidence to the contrary.

Well, not all diocese may be this corrupt. We only know about the few who were exposed because pedophilia forced public scrutiny. We also know the Philadelphia Archdiocese is only exposed because Philadelphia prosecutors had balls. This is not an honest institution. How corrupt? We don't know. Church institutions are protected even from private audits. The institution just in America is so large that it should be audited by one of the big four accounting firms. Because so many of us feel rather than make demands based in facts, then the Church could easily be one of the largest criminal enterprises in America. Having even condoned pedophilia and having all but ten states refuse to reform the laws.

[Lamplighter]

NY Times
JOHN ELIGON and LAURIE GOODSTEIN
9/7/12

Kansas City Bishop Convicted of Shielding Pedophile Priest

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A Roman Catholic bishop was found guilty on Thursday
of failing to report suspected child abuse, becoming the first American bishop
in the decades-long sexual abuse scandal to be convicted of shielding a pedophile priest.

In a hastily announced bench trial that lasted a little over an hour, a judge found the bishop,
Robert W. Finn, guilty on one misdemeanor charge and not guilty on a second charge,
for failing to report a priest who had taken hundreds of pornographic pictures of young girls.
The counts each carried a maximum penalty of one year in jail and a $1,000 fine,
but Bishop Finn was sentenced to two years of court-supervised probation.

The verdict is a watershed moment in the priest sexual abuse scandal
that has plagued the church since the 1980s.
Bishops have been eager to turn the page on this era and have put in place
extensive abuse prevention policies, which include reporting suspected abusers
to law enforcement authorities.

But the Kansas City case has served as a wake-up call
to Catholics that the policies cannot be effective if the bishops do not follow them.<snip>

[tw]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Kansas City Bishop Convicted of Shielding Pedophile Priest

If American DA finally start prosecuting, will Vatican City become a sanctuary for pedophiles? How many kids live in Vatican City?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by tw

How many kids live in Vatican City?

(age of consent: 12)

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

(age of consent: 12)

Ew

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

(age of consent: 12)

As much as I can be considered anti-Vatican, your link suggests nothing of the sort:

While the Vatican State has not made its own complete separate criminal code, and generally uses the Italian criminal code that was in effect at the time of the Lateran Treaty, there are exceptions to this rule. The "Law of the Source of Law" of the Vatican State requires that any Italian laws must first defer to divine law, to Papal decrees, and to canon law. As the Vatican understands divine law, all sex outside of marriage is illicit, and therefore the only lawful consent that may be made for sexual relations is the consent between a husband and a wife. Canon 1083 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law states that "A man before he has completed his sixteenth year of age and a woman before she has completed her fourteenth year of age cannot enter into a valid marriage." Thus, assuming the couple is married, the minimum age of consent for lawful sexual relations according to Vatican law is 14 for females, and 16 for males.

[BigV]

What states have laws that all but protect pedophiles? What are these laws? Should I post this as a demand based in fact?