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Old 10-12-2008, 01:05 PM   #1
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It seems like Obama is winning so I wonder why all the 'will race effect the election'? type of talk. If he is winning isn't it a moot point?

Sarah who?
Not if you count the "Bradley effect" theory that states that actual votes for minority candidates running against Caucasian candidates are lower than polled.
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Old 10-12-2008, 03:10 PM   #2
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Perhaps Merc's point was whether or not Palin created the policy to charge for the kits. To that, the answer is no - It was one of her predecessors - not her. Who actually started this policy? Look it up.

They seem to want to make it appear as though she implemented the policy - that is wrong.

Can we once and for all put this to rest and stop playing the semantics games?
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Old 10-12-2008, 03:24 PM   #3
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Crikey me - I never even heard about the rape kits thing.
Sorry, because this isn't germaine to the thread (as it might not be a Palin introduction) but are you seriously telling me that the richest country in the world makes women reporting rape pay to have it proved? Or that it was even an issue up for discussion?

If that's the case - and I admit I may have the wrong end of the stick - (nasty pun only mildly intended) then it's like my Mum says - the rich stay rich by holding onto their money.
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Old 10-12-2008, 03:28 PM   #4
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Here is a link for you to read about it. Read it carefully.

Here is an even better one.
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Old 10-12-2008, 03:45 PM   #5
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Thank you.
There is no conclusive proof that Palin supported this, but I am still appalled by it.

I appreciate the fact that "they" were determined to recou the costs from the insurance companies rather than individual women, but it still shocks me that gathering evidence is considered differently in a sexual crime than a burglary. They don't show that on CSI!
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:10 PM   #6
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*Blinks* that's a really good point tw.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:47 PM   #7
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If you get the candidate to say the words "rape kit" then you win the election.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:54 PM   #8
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Perhaps there is no way to conclusively prove it either way - as was the case. Perhaps the utter denials served no point other than drawing more attention to a non-issue. Perhaps - perhaps not...

Who started this policy? Apparently it was not Palin. How long has this policy been in place? Is this practice common elsewhere? Where else is it still happening? Perhaps it would be better to proactively address those issues elsewhere. Perhaps - perhaps not...
Damning questions that are not being asked by the media. Why is that?
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:47 PM   #9
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:15 PM   #10
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Two Alaskan Women Speak Out on Palin

It's interesting to hear these two Alaskan "women-on-the-street" talk about Palin:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-113360
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:33 PM   #11
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It's interesting to hear these two Alaskan "women-on-the-street" talk about Palin:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-113360
Two girls who barely have started their periods? Good source...
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:41 PM   #12
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Q: Where does Palin stand on foreign policy?
A: Dunno, Alaska.
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:52 PM   #13
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That was good.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:49 AM   #14
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That video was worth about as much as asking two guys in Deer stands what they think of gun rights.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:29 AM   #15
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I see mercy and cm as apologists for the actions of the police chief, when making an association with Sarah Palin.

I don't see the same distance being granted to Barak Obama when he's being tarred with an association with Bill Ayers.

This is despite the fact that Palin *hired* Fannon, Fannon reported directly to Palin and no such hierarchical relationship exists between Obama and Ayers at all.

Why the different reactions to a pair of relationships?
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