Self Policing Militia Summons

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

This thread seems to be tending towards that thing it's trying to prevent.

It does rather.

I think we shuold all just go back to what we were doing (except for the obvious of course...).

I think the people who've been particularly singled out have all heard what the rest of have to say. Let's just leave it at that now eh?

[lumberjim]

I know, right?

I'm sorry. I was going to refute points in V's post, but decided to go for the easy laugh instead.

I will just say what I mean....to Mr BigV:

I know you don't like Redux's ideas and his posts. You've said so clearly and repeatedly

I never argued politics or ideas with redux. I dont read his/her posts. I dont want to know all about him/her.

that's what ive said repeatedly. clearly, you dont read enough of the cellar to know what's going on to give a qualified critique of how we're handling this conflict. So, go back to PD and take your little bird with you, okay?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I know, right?

I'm sorry. I was going to refute points in V's post, but decided to go for the easy laugh instead.

I wish you'd refuted points. His post seemed completely reasonable to me, and yours just called him insane. Not so much an easy laugh as a WTF.

I never argued politics or ideas with redux. I dont read his/her posts. I dont want to know all about him/her.

You don't read his posts, but you know he doesn't talk about his personal life enough, but you don't want to know anything about him. You don't like the lack of real discussion in the politics forum, but you won't argue politics or ideas with one of the frequent posters in that forum. You call BigV's worldview insane, but this seems a bit schizophrenic.

So, go back to PD and take your little bird with you, okay?

And now BigV should "go back" somewhere. Like he isn't a real Dwellar.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I wish you'd refuted points. His post seemed completely reasonable to me, and yours just called him insane. Not so much an easy laugh as a WTF.
You don't read his posts, but you know he doesn't talk about his personal life enough, but you don't want to know anything about him. You don't like the lack of real discussion in the politics forum, but you won't argue politics or ideas with one of the frequent posters in that forum. You call BigV's worldview insane, but this seems a bit schizophrenic.And now BigV should "go back" somewhere. Like he isn't a real Dwellar.

I can't go back and do that now. BigV went through this thread and selected things to comment on. I saw it as exacerbating the already tense situation. (I was hesitant to reply to this post for that very reason....but I am only because it's you asking)I recognize that I'm the one that began this thread, but it is quite obvious that I'm not alone in my views.....no more alone than you and redux are.

I can see your side of this. To me, it seems that because you agree politically with redux, you are more apt to see him as a real being. Or maybe it's not because of politics at all. Maybe you honestly think that he contributes something worth while.

I said I don't read his posts.... i did say that. And I don't. I tried a few times... But now I get the impression that he just has his political point of view and offers the same counterpoint to the other political posters that I don't read. I never was much interested in politics. I have made my point about his and other people's domination of those forums. I'll let that stand.

as for telling BigV to go away? like he's not a real dwellar? Well, everyone has their own definition of a dwellar. My reaction there was to his saying that 'a little bird' told him to read this. (I wonder how spex feels about that) I imagine that he drops by occasionally at this point, but spends more time elsewhere. Maybe I'm way off there. In any event, I didn't like the arrogant way he posted his critique of how we were handling this when he is scarcely involved in the cellar. I won't say I'm subtle, but sometimes I make leaps and don't show my reasoning.

I hope we can let this issue settle down at some point and see if we've helped or hurt the atmosphere. Maybe.... If Merc, Classic, Redux and Spex can turn the spite knobs down from 11 to 7 or so..... we can all puull together as a team. I, for one will try not to bicker for more than 3 posts in a row! whaddaya say?! who's with me!?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

.... My reaction there was to his saying that 'a little bird' told him to read this. (I wonder how spex feels about that)

If you're insinuating that I told BigV to read this, you are absolutely incorrect and more than a little obsessed with me.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

If you're insinuating that I told BigV to read this, you are absolutely incorrect and more than a little obsessed with me.

no, i was just wondering how you felt about he and this undisclosed 'little bird' speaking privately. Wondering if that qualified as backstabbing in your rule book.


Why don't you and I try to be nice to each other from now on?

I'll go first.

I though you posted something funny the other day. I can't remember what, but I lolled.

[jinx]

There's a cellar cookie about this...

[monster]

you need to post the recipe for that in the appropriate ƒorum

[Sundae]

I bet it has nuts in it.

[monster]

youbetcha! I can see the nuts from my front porch

[Cicero]

I myself Flint, prefer the open airing of grievances to hush-hush backbiting. For instance, if you are getting disgusted by your friend's food in their beard, you should mention it, rather than giving up your meal yourself.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by lookout123

I don't remember a time where redux or spexx were active that the shit wasn't consistantly flying in all directions.

Then you have a poor memory.

Originally Posted by monster

it's the only way in your case. We're all sick of you bringing shit from one forum and wiping it all over the board.

Posts are not made in a vacuum. If someone says, in one thread, that VA benefits should be cut, then in another thread sympathizes with Buster’s bad experience in the VA hospital, that person should be called on it. Or if someone trashes Shaw in one thread, then asks Shaw not to leave in another, that person needs to be called on it.

Originally Posted by classicman

I chose to put the individuals on ignore several days ago. I haven't read a post nor typed a word to either of them since. I plan on continuing. If I do I request that I be banned, temporarily or permanently, mods'/UT's choice.
That good enough?

Originally Posted by classicman

I've censored myself the best I can by putting them all on ignore.
For which I was again ridiculed. here. I also offered an option here. Aside from lookout, I was ignored.

Obviously, your link shows that you read my post. I hope you’ll do the honorable thing. I’m kidding.

Classic gets wrapped up in the name calling, as I do, and as others do. At least some of Classic posts seem to genuinely seek to initiate a discussion apparently so that he can have a better informed opinion on a subject. He adds much more substance than merc.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

here's a theory....

the merc has an irritating rating of 135, but that is mitigated by his willingness to be a real person who we can get to know.....for a -50 irritating effect, netting him a rating of 85 irritating points.

redux has an irritating rating of 85.

equivalent.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Merc, your advantage in political threads is that you're more of a real person in non-political threads. You're a real person, compared to Redux, because none of us get a sense of who he is in real life.

I don’t think someone should get a pass for saying “you have a cute kitten” or “I’m really sorry about ur finger”. That doesn’t solve the problem in the politics and current events forums. If you want to solve the problem, come down equally on ALL offenders.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I don't care about you at all, for example. I actually care more about spexxvet, and I can't STAND that sonofabitch.

Aww… I feel the same way about you, my little douchebag.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I think that the ban hammer is a failure of the community to enfold and encourage the acceptance of all of our unique and individual brothers and sisters to this family.

Even me, Jimmy?

Originally Posted by Undertoad

In the tavern analogy, he sits and waits for the other tables to have a conversation that he can respond to, and once he hears a keyword, he jumps in, sits at that table, puts in his two cents, and then quietly leaves when the topic changes.

In another tavern, Merc sits at a table with his friends. He hears a keyword at a different table, and walks over to that table and tells the person speaking that he is an asshole for thinking like that, and then goes back to the table with his friends. Is that better? Maybe to his friends it is, but not to anybody else. And many times, the two tables will start yelling at each other, disrupting the whole tavern.

Originally Posted by monster

ooh look, everyone, Tikiman is here! The caped crusader once again arrives with a flaming torch to save the day, righting all wrongs and putting everyone back in their place. Hurrah!

Take it to the politics forum, huh? Maybe the “teams” mentioned earlier are not just political “teams”.

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

If we are a community, really a community, we should be able to bring pressure to bear without resorting to strong-arm moderation.

Like I suggested:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Here's an idea, Jim. You're well respected here. When someone posts a dismissive or insulting post, tell them to stop. Remember how obedient Classic was, when you told him to stop kicking the retarded kid? I'll bet Merc will listen to you, too. I don't want to sound like "they started it", but I will bet you that if you get merc and classic to stop, redux and I will have no reason to be asshats.

Jim is the perfect person to do this. He cared enough to start this thread, after all.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Cicero

I myself Flint, prefer the open airing of grievances to hush-hush backbiting. ..

That's what chat is for.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

That's what chat is for.

ha, ..na really?


kind of both in the same..the backbiting and airing of grievances during chat sessions.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

ha, ..na really?
.

No. Not true.