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Old 03-29-2005, 11:09 AM   #1
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I wouldn't call it the beginning of wholesale Alzheimer's slaughter, considering this:

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His living will clearly says he did not want one, Clunk said.
If this is accurate, when the spouse has power-of-attorney over health-care decisions but a living will saying "No tube" _also_ exists, which takes precedence? The end result will put an interesting spin on the recent upsurge of interest in living wills.
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Old 03-29-2005, 11:09 AM   #2
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re: DeLay's DNR on his dad. There's a difference here. Terri Schiavo wasn't dying. Her brain was fried, but her other organs worked. She breathed on her own, she was conscious (if not coherent). Some pundit remarked yesterday, "Christopher Reeves would've died without a feeding tube." I guess the difference is that he could communicate his wishes, whereas Schiavo can't (if she even has "wishes" anymore).

Everyone gets on their respective high horses about this case, but it's a complete grey area. Her doctors say that starvation isn't a painful way to die, yet they administer morphine. They say she has no awareness, but claim that she is experiencing a 'peaceful euphoria' as she dies of dehydration. The parents claim they can communicate with her, but can't show any evidence other than unintelligible moans and what *might* be smiles. When is someone going to come to the front and say "We just don't know what's going on with her."
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Old 03-29-2005, 11:38 AM   #3
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she was conscious
Fuckoff, she had/has (what the fuck does it matter) no functioning cortex, it's like a truck with the engine on but no driver, it ain't going anywhere fast. I've seen stuff growing in research labs with more higher brain function.

The truly, deeply fucked up thing about this is people's own fucked up prejudices and warped systems of belief means she has to die, if she was conscious, in one of the most horrible ways possible instead of through a quick and painless injection. If that isn't an example of some truly convoluted logic of individuals that shouldn't be allowed near a ballot box let alone elected office nothing is. They represent what hunter so concisely called the New Dumb.

The only positive I can see is that myself and I'm sure a lot of other people will be making sure we have legally enforceable completely and utterly unambiguous living wills so this fucked up shit doesn't happen to us.

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I doubt euthanasia will get much play, since many of the people lamenting the starving and dehydration were less concerned with the method than they were opposed to any sort of euthanasia, active or passive.

Congress isn't likely to press the issue of congressional jurisdiction, and that's too complicated an issue for the press.

So my guess is that the next issue will be Michael Jackson again. And that's about kids.
And so he continued playing the fiddle as the flames spread.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:03 PM   #4
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Heheh. At least somebody is making some cash off of this whole deal.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:28 PM   #5
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The message added: "We're asking you to give a donation to help with our activism efforts to save Terri's life. Battles cost money; resources cost money; media costs money; we could go on, but you get the picture."
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:29 PM   #6
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Hopefully, these guys are too.
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Old 03-29-2005, 01:24 PM   #7
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My mother mentioned that Jesse Jackson joined the media circus today. It took him this long to find someone black who was being disenfranchised??
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Old 03-29-2005, 01:46 PM   #8
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My mother mentioned that Jesse Jackson joined the media circus today. It took him this long to find someone black who was being disenfranchised??
Last week he was supporting Michael Jackson, this week he's protesting the Schiavo situation. What demographic is he going for? Catholic priests?

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Old 03-29-2005, 01:54 PM   #9
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he goes where he smells a photo op that may result in "contributions".
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Old 03-29-2005, 03:20 PM   #10
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he goes where he smells a photo op that may result in "contributions".
you just descibed virtually every politician.
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Old 03-29-2005, 04:08 PM   #11
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The addition of Jesse to the big top is exquisite! He can french kiss brother Alan Keyes.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:20 PM   #12
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This letter to the Editor of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer struck me as funny and true. Read it for yourself.
Unsettling lessons learned from Terri Schiavo's case
What we've learned from Terri Schiavo's case:

1) Tom Delay is a qualified neurologist.

2) Two dozen court cases weren't enough to really figure out what's going on.

3) Michael Schiavo is after money, which is why he turned down millions of dollars to sign over guardianship.

4) Right to life applies only when it's politically expedient.

5) Medical diagnoses are best performed by watching highly edited videotape rather than in person by trained physicians.

6) Minimum wage-making nursing assistants are more qualified to diagnose a persistent vegetative state than experienced neurologists.

7) Fifteen years in the same persistent state is not really enough time to make an accurate diagnosis.

8) Marriage is the most sacred of all unions, except when it isn't.

9) Interfering in a family's private tragedy is a great reason for President Bush to cut short a vacation, but getting a memo that warns of a terrorist attack isn't.

10) Right-wing pro-lifers are the most compassionate people on Earth, which is why they are robbing gun stores or offering money online to make sure Michael Schiavo dies.

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Old 03-30-2005, 04:27 AM   #13
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man needs to be given a column.
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:05 AM   #14
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:09 AM   #15
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that's fucked up. bad UT.

did you know that you can stop yourself from laughing if you bite your upper lip till it bleeds? yup.
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