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Old 02-03-2010, 05:48 PM   #1
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Womanly = domestic; manly = the polity



*shakes head* I give up.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:08 AM   #2
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Exactly: neoconservatism sprouted from disillusionment wrought by experience with the Old and the New Left. A growth experience, and a salubrious one too. These are less "origins in totalitarianism" than the complete rejection of it.

How would the rejection of the New Left and its works come out badly? Through not being leftist any more? Isn't that an unduly strained definition of "bad?" Sounds more to me like finally making it to adulthood. "If you're not a socialist at twenty, you have no heart; if you're still a socialist at forty, no brains."
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:24 AM   #3
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Neoconservatism is less a rejection than a full embrace of the "total state." They found no problem with activist domestic government but rather split because of the new left's rejection of militarism, the neo-con Frankenstein's other leg.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:31 PM   #4
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"If you're not a socialist at twenty, you have no heart; if you're still a socialist at forty, no brains."
Only in the Land of UG...where the cowardly lions are also socialists until they get the courage to be freedom fighters and spread the UG vision of imposing an American-style democracy, by force if necessary, even where it is not wanted or may not be the best fit.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:46 AM   #5
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I just know when you have kids you'll subdue them with academic explanations.

I knew what your angle was. I was astray. It's a gift.

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I'd much rather have robust womanly antitotalitarianism :P

i mean seriously...manly?
PNAC = excess testosterone therefore nothing but manly

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm

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As a person of freedom, I say no. I have the belief that liberty should not be denied any people through caviling on the part of any other people.
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"If you're not a socialist at twenty, you have no heart; if you're still a socialist at forty, no brains."
We have Obama and he is 40ish and apparently not brain dead and a lot of accusation as being a socialist so it looks to me like we swung away from neo conservatism although we will be paying for those policies for sometime to come.



@ Griff. I appreciated your linked article. It got me reading about something I'd rather not think about.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:06 AM   #6
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I just know when you have kids you'll subdue them with academic explanations.
Never gonna happen ::P
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:13 PM   #7
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Wow - This is even more insignificant than I originally thought.
Look at how obscure this is (See screw for reference)
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:00 AM   #8
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You are right, I see how it would be so obvious.
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