I don't have a dog in this fight, but...

[Lamplighter]

The Forbes article above has a fragrance of faint praise.

Wikipedia

A shill, plant or stooge is a person who helps a person or organization
without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with that person or organization.

Plant and stooge more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league
with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually
a part of the organization he or she is planted in.

And besides all that:

Forbes magazine is owned and edited, in part, by Steve Forbes,
who was a GOP presidential candidate in years past, when he
ran on his proposal of a 17% "flat tax"

This year Steve Forbes is supporting Rick Perry, and it is rumored
that Perry's budget proposal is derived from, if not written by, Steve Forbes.
.

[infinite monkey]

Clinton could get away with it 'cause he was a kickass president. And smart. Smart enough to save his fooling around until AFTER he got into office.

Why do these guys think their roaming penises won't come to light?

The power of the penis, why women should run the world.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Clinton could get away with it 'cause he was a kickass president. And smart. Smart enough to save his fooling around until AFTER he got into office.

Really?

Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Suzanne Coleman, Judy Gibbs, Katherine Willey, Dolly Kyle Browning, former Miss America Elizabeth Gracen, and the Arkansas state troopers were reported to had helped solicit women for Bill. All before he was president.

Makes Herman Cain look pale in comparison.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

How do you know he is lying?

Of course he's lying.

I haven't followed each of the allegations that closely, because I don't think he's worth my time. But you don't get this many different people coming forward when someone is squeaky clean. The most recent one is making him think about dropping out of the race it's so serious. And he's still denying it. "Oh, I never had sex with her, but we did spend a lot of time together and I did give her money. And we were seen in public in Vegas together at a prize fight. But no, no sex. My wife's pissed at me. But no. No sex. Honest."

Comparing the guy to Clinton is fair, because they both have a history of being sluts who lie about it. But Clinton was a good president, and Cain has never held any office, so there's no comparison there.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

But Clinton was a good president, and Cain has never held any office, so there's no comparison there.

Clinton was among the biggest disgrace's ever to hold the office. He was as corrupt as they come. The Clinton couple was just as big a disgrace to move into the place. Take your blinders off.

Cain has had a few people come out and make accusations. The Clinton family has a literal body count behind them.

[glatt]

You actually believe the Clintons had people killed? This is an actual belief you hold?

[infinite monkey]

[infinite monkey]

Come on, this is just funny:

Originally Posted by Chris Rock

What the fuck did Clinton do? They was charging him with shit l didn't even know was crimes.

''You got her some gifts.''

So what he got her gifts? That's his friend. You can't buy your friend a gift?

''Tried to get her a job." You can't get your friend a job?

Shit, % of the people in this room got their job because a friend recommended them.

lt's against the law to get your friend a job? Shit, she blew him for a couple of months.
The least he could do is give her a recommendation! lt's the least he could do.

See, people...everybody expects this holy behavior
'cause he's the President. Expect him to behave this holy way.

He's just the President. He ain't Rev. Clinton. lt ain't Pastor Clinton. lt ain't Maharajah Clinton.

lt is just Bill Clinton. He's just a man. A man's gonna be a man.

A man is basically as faithful as his options. That's how faithful a man is, no more, no less.

You see all these fat Republican guys going: l would never do such a thing. This is a travesty.

l'm like, ''Nobody's trying to blow you.''

Ain't no 21-year-old girls trying to blow Orrin Hatch.

Ain't nobody trying to give Newt Gingrich some.

l don't give a fuck, you ain't never gonna hear Newt Gingrich go: Man, l wish these hoes
would back up off me. l wish they would just back the fuck up off me.

--Chris Rock, 1999

[glatt]

Clinton didn't get a complete pass. He was impeached.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

Clinton didn't get a complete pass. He was impeached.

And found not guilty. Impeachment is the process. He was eventually disbarred but not for any sexual misconduct, but for perjury. His perv behavior was never questioned, only his lie under oath. He got a major pass. And as evidenced by of the people who want to through Cain under the bus but still think Clinton was great. Hypocrisy.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

And found not guilty. Impeachment is the process. He was eventually disbarred but not for any sexual misconduct, but for perjury. His perv behavior was never questioned, only his lie under oath. He got a major pass. And as evidenced by of the people who want to through Cain under the bus but still think Clinton was great. Hypocrisy.

That's my whole point. The "perv" behaviour is not the problem. It's the lies about the behaviour that are the problem.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

That's my whole point. The "perv" behaviour is not the problem. It's the lies about the behaviour that are the problem.

Good, so they are equal. If Clinton can come out smelling like a rose, so can Cain.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Come on, this is just funny:



--Chris Rock, 1999

[Undertoad]

People please!

Herman Cain is getting a free pass on his utter lack of a clue in foreign policy. To run for the Presidency and not know what is going on in Libya is rather inexcusable. When you run for the Presidency it is for the sake of the nation, not to improve your standing in it.

Clinton got a free pass from the American public, not from the media, Congress, or the prosecuting team. Once the public has all the details, but gives you a free pass anyway, it's over. There's no use bitching about it.

And while the masses are generally ignorant, they do sense what is going on; that Clinton was an utter womanizer, but was not using it as an excuse, while the prosecution was charging him with this during the investigation of a completely unrelated matter upon which he was later found innocent.

It was like, they have gone after him with all weapons on hand, so now we know the very worst of him, and it merely makes him human.

It's also an understanding of what makes leadership; you can be a womanizer and have affairs and still be President, but what you can't do is show weakness. Clinton's finger-jab was a bitter pill for his political enemies, but he was sure never to be a deer in the headlights.

[Griff]

Wut UT said.