Mosque at 51 Park Place, NY, NY - Page 19

Happy Monkey · 09-14-2010, 07:32 PM

Actually, Sikh daggers do run into this very issue on occasion.

09-14-2010, 10:31 PM

I subscribe to the Ben Franklin notion that "those who sacrifice liberty for safety (security) deserve neither."

Particularly when it is based on emotions and not evidence that such sacrifices of liberty will ensure greater safety/security.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-15-2010, 05:13 AM

Incredible, fucking incredible.

Rhianne · 09-15-2010, 05:53 AM

Sad and embarrassing. It made me laugh, but only for a moment or two. Unfortuntately I've come into contact with characters like these far too often.

Clodfobble · 09-15-2010, 07:20 AM

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building a mosk on ground zero is like providing cotton feilds ford unemployed people

I'm sorry... what?

This is actually fairly entertaining, I may be killing time on OpenBook more often.

glatt · 09-15-2010, 07:26 AM

I never heard of OpenBook before. It's a neat idea.

classicman · 09-15-2010, 07:44 AM

funny, sad and true ... oh and entertaining.

classicman · 09-15-2010, 07:55 AM

Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit
The protester who burned pages from the Koran outside a planned mosque near Ground Zero has been fired from NJTransit, sources and authorities said Tuesday.

Derek Fenton's 11-year career at the agency came to an abrupt halt Monday after photographs of him ripping pages from the Muslim holy book and setting them ablaze appeared in newspapers.

Fenton, 39, of Bloomingdale, N.J., burned the book during a protest on the ninth anniversary of Sept. 11 outside Park51, the controversial mosque slated to be built near Ground Zero.

He was apparently inspired by Pastor Terry Jones, the Florida clergyman who threatened to burn the Koran that day but later changed his mind.

NJ Transit said Fenton was fired but wouldn't give specifics.

"Mr. Fenton's public actions violated New Jersey Transit's code of ethics," an agency statement said.

"NJ Transit concluded that Mr. Fenton violated his trust as a state employee and therefore [he] was dismissed."

Fenton was ushered from the protests by police on Saturday and questioned, but he was released without charges.

"He said, 'This is America,' and he wanted to stand up for it, in a Tea Party kind of way," a police source said.

If Fenton was fired for burning the Koran while off-duty, his First Amendment rights probably were violated, Chris Dunn of the New York Civil Liberties Union said.

"The Supreme Court has recognized a constitutional right to burn the flag. As reprehensible as it may be, burning the Koran would be protected as well."

Read more:
Here we go ...................

classicman · 09-15-2010, 07:58 AM

on a lighter note...

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The internet has a new hero: Amarillo, Texas, skateboarder Jacob Isom.

The 23-year-old single-handedly stopped a Koran burning in an Amarillo park Saturday by swiping the kerosene-soaked holy book when the militant Christian protest leader's back was turned.

"He said something about burning the Koran and I was like, 'Dude, you HAVE no Koran' and ran off," Isom told local TV News Channel 10.

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classicman · 09-15-2010, 11:55 AM

Pete - If I owned a deli or a convenience store or any retail anything... I'd wanna see everyone's face - period. There is no statistical data to support this I am sure, but banks are not real keen on them coming in dressed this way.

classicman · 11-22-2010, 01:02 PM

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The developers behind the proposed Ground Zero mosque have applied for about $5 million in federal grant money set aside for redeveloping downtown Manhattan after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a new report.

The application was submitted as a "community and cultural enhancement" grant, which is a program run by the Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Corp.

Developer Sharif El-Gamal discussed the grant proposal in recent closed-door meetings, according to The Daily Beast.

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This should make everyone feel much better - This way the money won't be coming from supposed terrorists - it'll be coming from us. Problem solved.

Griff · 12-12-2010, 09:18 AM

The BBC had an interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf this morning. He comes off as a moderate religious voice much like those Christians and Jews we used to hear from before everything changed©.

tw · 12-12-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

The BBC had an interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf this morning. He comes off as a moderate religious voice much like those Christians and Jews we used to hear from before everything changed©.

Which is copyrighted. Change? Or everything changed? And who owns the copyright? Disney?

It would be a weird movie from Disney. "Everything Changed - a 9 11 Toy Story".

Griff · 12-12-2010, 08:18 PM

Everything Changed in all its iterations is a copyrighted phrase owned by Fox News Corpse.

Lamplighter · 12-12-2010, 08:26 PM

I'm curious.
Are you saying that specific phrase is copyrighted, or is it a piece of music of that title ?

e.g.,

Quote:

Everything changed
Document number:
V2617P109
Date of Recordation:
January 24, 1991
Entire Copyright Document:
V2617 P97-194
Registration Number Not Verified:
EP305137 (1972)
Title:
Everything changed / By Andrae Crouch. EP305137 (1972)
Number of similar titles:
33
Title appears in Document:
Above this life & 1,925 other titles; musical compositions. (Part 002 of 010)

Read more: http://www.faqs.org/copyright/everyt...#ixzz17xFDOhKm

09-14-2010, 07:32 PM	#1
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Actually, Sikh daggers do run into this very issue on occasion. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-15-2010, 05:13 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Incredible, fucking incredible. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-15-2010, 07:44 AM	#7
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	funny, sad and true ... oh and entertaining. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-15-2010, 07:55 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Koran burner Derek Fenton booted from his job at NJ Transit The protester who burned pages from the Koran outside a planned mosque near Ground Zero has been fired from NJTransit, sources and authorities said Tuesday. Derek Fenton's 11-year career at the agency came to an abrupt halt Monday after photographs of him ripping pages from the Muslim holy book and setting them ablaze appeared in newspapers. Fenton, 39, of Bloomingdale, N.J., burned the book during a protest on the ninth anniversary of Sept. 11 outside Park51, the controversial mosque slated to be built near Ground Zero. He was apparently inspired by Pastor Terry Jones, the Florida clergyman who threatened to burn the Koran that day but later changed his mind. NJ Transit said Fenton was fired but wouldn't give specifics. "Mr. Fenton's public actions violated New Jersey Transit's code of ethics," an agency statement said. "NJ Transit concluded that Mr. Fenton violated his trust as a state employee and therefore [he] was dismissed." Fenton was ushered from the protests by police on Saturday and questioned, but he was released without charges. "He said, 'This is America,' and he wanted to stand up for it, in a Tea Party kind of way," a police source said. If Fenton was fired for burning the Koran while off-duty, his First Amendment rights probably were violated, Chris Dunn of the New York Civil Liberties Union said. "The Supreme Court has recognized a constitutional right to burn the flag. As reprehensible as it may be, burning the Koran would be protected as well." Read more: Here we go ................... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-15-2010, 11:55 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Pete - If I owned a deli or a convenience store or any retail anything... I'd wanna see everyone's face - period. There is no statistical data to support this I am sure, but banks are not real keen on them coming in dressed this way. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

09-14-2010, 10:31 PM	#2
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	I subscribe to the Ben Franklin notion that "those who sacrifice liberty for safety (security) deserve neither." Particularly when it is based on emotions and not evidence that such sacrifices of liberty will ensure greater safety/security.

09-15-2010, 05:53 AM	#4
Rhianne Nearly done. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Teetering on the edge. Posts: 1,134	Sad and embarrassing. It made me laugh, but only for a moment or two. Unfortuntately I've come into contact with characters like these far too often.

09-15-2010, 07:26 AM	#6
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I never heard of OpenBook before. It's a neat idea.

12-12-2010, 09:18 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The BBC had an interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf this morning. He comes off as a moderate religious voice much like those Christians and Jews we used to hear from before everything changed©. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-12-2010, 08:18 PM	#14
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Everything Changed in all its iterations is a copyrighted phrase owned by Fox News Corpse. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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