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08-20-2004, 09:07 PM | #1 |
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I was a girl scout and it was a pretty fun experience for me. I don't recall being indoctrinated with any more nazi values than what the culture around me was trying to heap on my head. My group did some pretty fun things and every summer I spent some time camping at the local girl scout ranch. I liked getting all the badges, and it WAS educational to do the work to get one. I learned how to make something I call "girl scout stew," and it is a featured item in my camping menu to this very day!
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08-20-2004, 11:26 AM | #2 |
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The political ideas are important ... even/especially if the child doesn't understand them. That way they accept these ideas without questioning. "Give me your children until you are 12 and they will be mine forever." (isn't that how the saying goes?)
Some kids can break free of the indoctrination, if they are sharp enough and start to question early enough.
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08-20-2004, 11:42 AM | #3 |
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although I wasn't a girl scout.. I was in scouting from cubscout on to life rank in boyscouts.. for me it was a very very rewarding experience.. although, I have always thought thta there ought to be a gender neutral scouting group... although that obviously has logistical problems (mush less people being weird about their children being around members of the oppposite sex when there is a percieved lack of 'supervision'.. although that is understandable.)
A good deal of my friends who are female went to girlscouts and are of the general opinion that boy scouts would have been much more fun (and a lot less 'crafty' and more usefull). my main problem was with the religious aspect of it.. but then again I got to be the kids who stayed back at camp while everyone else was at 'church' to tend the fires.. foreshadowing perhaps? (and sweet jeebus! how many times can yo using kum-by-ya-my-lord anyway?)
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08-20-2004, 12:01 PM | #4 |
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I applaud the Boy Scouts desire to stand true to their charter and founding ideals.
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08-20-2004, 12:52 PM | #7 |
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I'll think about making it next year. It's actually quite complex. It's an arranged salad. Individual plates. You can see how it's not quite a forks-fit ...
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08-20-2004, 01:06 PM | #8 |
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As the lone dissenting Girl Scout in my troop I was roughly grabbed from my bunkbed at dawn and tied to the totem pole. I managed to escape in time for Hunter's Stew and S'mores. At Resident's camp (2 weeks, semi-primitive) I was forced to make jam and candles. It was, all in all, a terrifying time to be a girl.
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08-20-2004, 02:41 PM | #10 |
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My friend Kurtis, who lurks here from time to time was a Boy Scout Master for a while and I will encourage him to read this thread and state his positions. He may or may not know much about the Girl Scouts, but can speak well on the Boy Scouts and you can parse what he says to apply to the GS.
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08-20-2004, 03:10 PM | #11 |
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I recall stealing marshmallow's and eating so may Nacho Cheese Dorito's that I had projectile vomiting. Other than that...
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08-20-2004, 03:13 PM | #12 |
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OK, before NBN gets here, how old were you when you were tied to the totem pole, and what were you wearing? :p
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08-20-2004, 03:18 PM | #13 | |
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08-20-2004, 05:17 PM | #14 |
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My Girl Scout experience was great from what I recall. Loved the cookie drive (lol who doesn't...never mind someone here might actually answer that). Didn't care that we didn't learn all the "outdoor" stuff. Lets face it: an all black GS troop is NOT trying to become outdoorsmen (women), so all of the "girly" stuff was fine with us. We went camping ONCE and stayed in a cabin with running water and toilets. Don't give a fuck that some ppl would not call it "real" camping...it was to us. Slept in sleeping bags...hated it. Guess I'm too much of a city gal. Need 4 walls, a bed, cable TV, room service, etc.
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08-20-2004, 05:20 PM | #15 |
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I was a brownie, but couldnt handle much else. I enjoyed organized sports more- softball, swimming. I did like girl scout camp. I went even after I dropped out of the year round stuff. There was a wilderness challenge, 4 of us( I'm guessing age 11 or so) spent the night on a mountain in PA alone with no adults, (within screaming distance of the base camp) but we had to build a lean-to, dig a latrine, build fires, store the food in a tree. The site was checked the next day and we got a certificate. I remember being very jazzed to make it through that program. In adolescence, I went to a few church camps of various denominations, just to go with a friend, co- ed, purely social, prepubescent thrills, vespers and all that.
I think the camping experiences that build independence and cooperation, with a respect for nature are great. But you dont need scouting to give that to a kid. Sounds like youse do that pretty regularly as a family. I have a coworker here that has a teenage daughter that takes on a new wilderness challenge each summer. This year it was a 3 week long portage from MN into Canada. With just a small group. it was quite an accomplishment. Mom swears its been so great for her daughter's confidence, patience, all around maturity. And I think the only other good thing about some scouting would be the building of some sense of social responsibilty- opportunities to volunteer, help others. But again, you can foster that with out the whole organized scouting thing, more effectively. |
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