Cellar servers replacement project thread - Page 2

Undertoad · 09-10-2012, 09:57 PM

Not quite. I'm researching everything!

The ProLiant 360 G5 looks like the choice in the HP side, and the PowerEdge 2950 for the Dell side.

Will wait to see if there's input from Zip's stepson. Meanwhile:

- rack rails for the HP are simpler and thus cheaper.
- disk caddies for the HP are more available.
- Dell supports both 2.5" and 3.5" drive form factors, HP only 2.5"
- Dell supports both SAS and SCSI drives in its RAID hardware, not sure about HP. This is important because SAS drives cost huge huge $$$

zippyt · 09-10-2012, 11:31 PM

what spec are you looking for this is All greek to me

Griff · 09-11-2012, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt

what spec are you looking for this is All geek to me

ftfy

infinite monkey · 09-11-2012, 07:36 AM

Best use of ftfy, 2012.

Undertoad · 09-11-2012, 07:39 AM

I would say, just ask if they have some sorta program to get rid of old servers as cheap as eBay. Off-lease, refurbs, that sorta thing.

Undertoad · 09-11-2012, 01:38 PM

Now 100%+, wiggle room here allocated, thank you donor!

Undertoad · 09-11-2012, 01:48 PM

I'm sifting over every Craigslist within 200 miles.

This place in Harrisburg has a 2950 for $200 but the description is "iffy".

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/syd/3180309844.html

I'm really tempted but the listing is 2 weeks old. I'll email and ask if it's still available. I head out Harrisburg way quite often. Mama lives across the river.

BrianR · 09-11-2012, 03:09 PM

I am paying close attention since I want to set up a small server with potential here for my home network. I am not geek enough to do this myself, and no one here lives close enough to do it for me, so I figure I will just call Hire-A-Geek and have it done for me.

I do, however, want to be able to understand the Geekese when I hear it.

Pam

Undertoad · 09-14-2012, 10:15 PM

Old old friend of the Cellar, 1995-2001 Dwellar Failsafe just checked in with me on a 3 hour phone call. It turns out he has some Intel server hardware that might be available to us cheap. Although Intel is not HP or Dell, they can't be that far off -- and perhaps we can spend half as much on his server hardware as the database server and more on a newer HP or Dell for the main server? I wouldn't agree to anything without a full listing of what his gear is, what its value is on eBay and, most importantly, whether it's the right solution from a system engineering standpoint.

So, we are now waiting for input from Failsafe and Zippy in case there's something better or cheaper than our eBay solutions.

jimhelm · 09-14-2012, 11:20 PM

Lets buy a motorcycle instead!

DanaC · 09-15-2012, 02:34 AM

Or spend the money on a big party!

Griff · 09-15-2012, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm

Lets buy a motorcycle instead!

I have that itch right now, thankfully I have no money!

BrianR · 09-15-2012, 09:55 AM

How is ole Doc Failsafe?

I really wish I could talk to him, I need some advice.

Undertoad · 09-15-2012, 10:48 AM

Doing well he is! He's finally divorced his crazy wife and is looking to move on.

zippyt · 09-15-2012, 11:19 AM

I talked to the Step son , he has no connections in the service dept any more , sorry

09-10-2012, 11:31 PM	#17
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	what spec are you looking for this is All greek to me __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-11-2012, 03:09 PM	#23
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I am paying close attention since I want to set up a small server with potential here for my home network. I am not geek enough to do this myself, and no one here lives close enough to do it for me, so I figure I will just call Hire-A-Geek and have it done for me. I do, however, want to be able to understand the Geekese when I hear it. Pam __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

09-14-2012, 11:20 PM	#25
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	Lets buy a motorcycle instead! __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool Last edited by jimhelm; 09-14-2012 at 11:33 PM.

09-15-2012, 09:55 AM	#28
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	How is ole Doc Failsafe? I really wish I could talk to him, I need some advice. __________________ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous

09-15-2012, 11:19 AM	#30
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	I talked to the Step son , he has no connections in the service dept any more , sorry __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-10-2012, 09:57 PM	#16
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Not quite. I'm researching everything! The ProLiant 360 G5 looks like the choice in the HP side, and the PowerEdge 2950 for the Dell side. Will wait to see if there's input from Zip's stepson. Meanwhile: - rack rails for the HP are simpler and thus cheaper. - disk caddies for the HP are more available. - Dell supports both 2.5" and 3.5" drive form factors, HP only 2.5" - Dell supports both SAS and SCSI drives in its RAID hardware, not sure about HP. This is important because SAS drives cost huge huge $$$

09-11-2012, 07:36 AM	#19
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Best use of ftfy, 2012.

09-11-2012, 07:39 AM	#20
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I would say, just ask if they have some sorta program to get rid of old servers as cheap as eBay. Off-lease, refurbs, that sorta thing.

09-11-2012, 01:38 PM	#21
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Now 100%+, wiggle room here allocated, thank you donor!

09-11-2012, 01:48 PM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I'm sifting over every Craigslist within 200 miles. This place in Harrisburg has a 2950 for $200 but the description is "iffy". http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/syd/3180309844.html I'm really tempted but the listing is 2 weeks old. I'll email and ask if it's still available. I head out Harrisburg way quite often. Mama lives across the river.

09-14-2012, 10:15 PM	#24
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Old old friend of the Cellar, 1995-2001 Dwellar Failsafe just checked in with me on a 3 hour phone call. It turns out he has some Intel server hardware that might be available to us cheap. Although Intel is not HP or Dell, they can't be that far off -- and perhaps we can spend half as much on his server hardware as the database server and more on a newer HP or Dell for the main server? I wouldn't agree to anything without a full listing of what his gear is, what its value is on eBay and, most importantly, whether it's the right solution from a system engineering standpoint. So, we are now waiting for input from Failsafe and Zippy in case there's something better or cheaper than our eBay solutions.

09-15-2012, 10:48 AM	#29
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Doing well he is! He's finally divorced his crazy wife and is looking to move on.

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