Here in The Cellar - Is It *Real*? - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 03-13-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Sorry, Brianna and Bruce, but yes I'm still with her - sort of.

Whoa, Nellie. When did I ever advise you not to go for it?
Not me, man......I'm in favor of trying every car on the lot, that's offered.

lumberjim · 03-12-2006, 08:10 AM

this new revision fucks with paragraph structure. the above had a couple of breaks in it that have been squished down by the software.....

Griff · 03-12-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

this new revision fucks with paragraph structure. the above had a couple of breaks in it that have been squished down by the software.....

I can't wait to see tw's next post...

Undertoad · 03-12-2006, 09:19 AM

Is it real - funny because that's the point I made to Dinty Moore when he interviewed us in 1995 for his book about the internet, and the one he took from it. It most certainly is real, just a different way of being social.

In the olden days, people's letters to each other were considered so vital and important that they were carefully collected. Can you imagine what it must have been like, when it was a near-impossibility for people from a different town to get together for dinner or what-have-you, without having to involve beasts of burden and a back-breaking trip? They were social with their family and people in their immediate vicnity, but people three miles away were separated by a wall of distance.

When the telephone was invented, it made us think that talking directly to each other was the only way of being social. That's been the convention. Well now it doesn't have to be. And frankly what an advantage, because now I'm being social with the lot of you, not just one.

Undertoad · 03-12-2006, 09:20 AM

My paragraph breaks were kept in place LJ... I'm using Firefox/WinXP

and both advanced and quick reply editor

xoxoxoBruce · 03-12-2006, 10:47 AM

Better than real, you can't smell me.

03-12-2006, 11:44 AM

Yeah, its real. Psychologists have actually written papers on the social interactions of groups on the Internet.

Everyone who sticks around here for any length of time is usually intelligent and witty and has some interesting stuff to say, even when I completely disagree with them.

I've learned a lot of stuff here that I would never have known about otherwise, and this forum and a few others help me feel more a part of the world since my circumstances currently force me to lead a rather cloistured life.

I look for posts by the regulars and if someone suddenly stops posting for a while, I wonder if they're OK and what happened to them. I like the fact that this forum has a core group of posters who have been here for years. It gives the place a real feeling of continuity and community.

I also post on some huge forums and, while interesting, those forums just don't have the same comfy feel of the Cellar. UT has done an outstanding job tending to this place, and I really like his "hands off" attitude where he pretty much lets members police the forum themselves. I don't know of another place on the net that is so open.

And to continue UT's comments on the fine art of writing. Its a form of communication that almost got lost for a while there. Discussion groups on the Net have kept the art of correspondence alive. And people's individual personalities do come through on their posts.

This place and the dwellers here are certainly "real" to me.

lumberjim · 03-12-2006, 10:40 AM

ya. firefox and xp here too.

test.

must have been me

Trilby · 03-12-2006, 12:03 PM

Yeah, I get upset when someone calls me (or thinks of me) a fucktard. I also feel lifted up when I get support from you all. I like it here because the cellar is much more liberal than people here in my town. I was given a lot of very real support a while back--more than anything I could get IRL here. I find less judgement and more acceptance here. My sis lived in Philly (well, Swarthmore) for ten years and she LOVED it. She felt very ok expressing her pagan beliefs, etc. there. When she moved to Cincy, she found herself smack in the middle of the Bible belt, finger-wagging, soccer-mom hell. That's what Ohio is like.

Kagen4o4 · 03-12-2006, 06:06 PM

im a bit busy atm so i didnt have time to read everyones posts (ill come back later) but i feel like the cellar is real to me. just the mere mention of my name in a post about the cellar community made me all giddy inside. just like with irl friends you hope that they always think about you now and again. im definately a little more open on here than irl but its still my personality.

and elspode, good to see you spelt "magickal" right instead of the illusion creating "magical"

Rock Steady · 03-12-2006, 06:31 PM

My real experience in an orange jump suit helped at least one member face the judge with courage. Although I haven't done it a lot, I like when I can be supportive at The Cellar for a real person somewhere. And the last time I went to court, another member was 'there' for me.

But, it helps me to remember that if people are crticial of me, they are working with limited information, and not to take it too personally nor hold a grudge. It's real, but limited.

jinx · 03-13-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock Steady

It's real, but limited.

Yes. Well said.

Skunks · 03-13-2006, 10:06 PM

I think things in my life are approaching an even level of surreal or unreal. Some days I wake up tired enough to barely speak simple sentences, but through rote repetition & blind luck manage the ride to campus, wake up enough on the way to stumble through a day's worth of drudgery, & then bike home again. Sometimes I'll catch myself wondering how I got somewhere, or less thinking that something should be done & more accepting that that is the next item on my long itinerary of life, the next step in a short-term tradition followed blindly. The past 10 weeks are a rained-out smudge of a memory.

So in a sense, this place is as real as anything else I do or see or read. Which is to say: not very. (& yet then, this is my life: so what is more real than what I'm living, dreamy & detached as I am?)

dar512 · 03-14-2006, 04:57 PM

Skunks,

If what you wrote is not an exaggeration, then it sounds like you are depressed. It doesn't have to be that way. You should see a counselor.

slang · 03-14-2006, 05:02 PM

Enter.....Wolf

03-12-2006, 08:10 AM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	this new revision fucks with paragraph structure. the above had a couple of breaks in it that have been squished down by the software..... __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-12-2006, 10:47 AM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Better than real, you can't smell me. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-12-2006, 10:40 AM	#8
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	ya. firefox and xp here too. test. must have been me __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-12-2006, 12:03 PM	#9
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Yeah, I get upset when someone calls me (or thinks of me) a fucktard. I also feel lifted up when I get support from you all. I like it here because the cellar is much more liberal than people here in my town. I was given a lot of very real support a while back--more than anything I could get IRL here. I find less judgement and more acceptance here. My sis lived in Philly (well, Swarthmore) for ten years and she LOVED it. She felt very ok expressing her pagan beliefs, etc. there. When she moved to Cincy, she found herself smack in the middle of the Bible belt, finger-wagging, soccer-mom hell. That's what Ohio is like. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-12-2006, 06:31 PM	#11
Rock Steady Day Tripper Join Date: May 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 784	My real experience in an orange jump suit helped at least one member face the judge with courage. Although I haven't done it a lot, I like when I can be supportive at The Cellar for a real person somewhere. And the last time I went to court, another member was 'there' for me. But, it helps me to remember that if people are crticial of me, they are working with limited information, and not to take it too personally nor hold a grudge. It's real, but limited. __________________

03-12-2006, 09:19 AM	#4
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Is it real - funny because that's the point I made to Dinty Moore when he interviewed us in 1995 for his book about the internet, and the one he took from it. It most certainly is real, just a different way of being social. In the olden days, people's letters to each other were considered so vital and important that they were carefully collected. Can you imagine what it must have been like, when it was a near-impossibility for people from a different town to get together for dinner or what-have-you, without having to involve beasts of burden and a back-breaking trip? They were social with their family and people in their immediate vicnity, but people three miles away were separated by a wall of distance. When the telephone was invented, it made us think that talking directly to each other was the only way of being social. That's been the convention. Well now it doesn't have to be. And frankly what an advantage, because now I'm being social with the lot of you, not just one.

03-12-2006, 09:20 AM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	My paragraph breaks were kept in place LJ... I'm using Firefox/WinXP and both advanced and quick reply editor

03-12-2006, 11:44 AM	#7
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, its real. Psychologists have actually written papers on the social interactions of groups on the Internet. Everyone who sticks around here for any length of time is usually intelligent and witty and has some interesting stuff to say, even when I completely disagree with them. I've learned a lot of stuff here that I would never have known about otherwise, and this forum and a few others help me feel more a part of the world since my circumstances currently force me to lead a rather cloistured life. I look for posts by the regulars and if someone suddenly stops posting for a while, I wonder if they're OK and what happened to them. I like the fact that this forum has a core group of posters who have been here for years. It gives the place a real feeling of continuity and community. I also post on some huge forums and, while interesting, those forums just don't have the same comfy feel of the Cellar. UT has done an outstanding job tending to this place, and I really like his "hands off" attitude where he pretty much lets members police the forum themselves. I don't know of another place on the net that is so open. And to continue UT's comments on the fine art of writing. Its a form of communication that almost got lost for a while there. Discussion groups on the Net have kept the art of correspondence alive. And people's individual personalities do come through on their posts. This place and the dwellers here are certainly "real" to me.

03-12-2006, 06:06 PM	#10
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	im a bit busy atm so i didnt have time to read everyones posts (ill come back later) but i feel like the cellar is real to me. just the mere mention of my name in a post about the cellar community made me all giddy inside. just like with irl friends you hope that they always think about you now and again. im definately a little more open on here than irl but its still my personality. and elspode, good to see you spelt "magickal" right instead of the illusion creating "magical"

03-13-2006, 10:06 PM	#13
Skunks I thought I changed this. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: western nowhere, ny Posts: 412	I think things in my life are approaching an even level of surreal or unreal. Some days I wake up tired enough to barely speak simple sentences, but through rote repetition & blind luck manage the ride to campus, wake up enough on the way to stumble through a day's worth of drudgery, & then bike home again. Sometimes I'll catch myself wondering how I got somewhere, or less thinking that something should be done & more accepting that that is the next item on my long itinerary of life, the next step in a short-term tradition followed blindly. The past 10 weeks are a rained-out smudge of a memory. So in a sense, this place is as real as anything else I do or see or read. Which is to say: not very. (& yet then, this is my life: so what is more real than what I'm living, dreamy & detached as I am?)

03-14-2006, 04:57 PM	#14
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Skunks, If what you wrote is not an exaggeration, then it sounds like you are depressed. It doesn't have to be that way. You should see a counselor. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

03-14-2006, 05:02 PM	#15
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Enter.....Wolf __________________ FTFF

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