Plumbing advice - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 04-18-2006, 06:06 PM

You've got a torch? Well hells bells, man......let the insurance company remodel the bath.

zippyt · 04-18-2006, 06:12 PM

Mind F**k The plumber I tell you !!!

SteveDallas · 04-18-2006, 06:25 PM

The plumber (a neighbor whom I'm not super-close friends with, but whose sons play with my kids a lot, so we know each other) quoted me $100 to do the job using the parts I already bought.

The bad news: He can't fit us in till Thursday. It's inconvenient but I'm not complaining.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-18-2006, 06:42 PM

That's a bargain.

wolf · 04-18-2006, 08:17 PM

I'm getting a major Three Stooges vibe off this attempt at plumbing by the clarinet player ... Hey, can't you just jam a 1-1/2 reed in the leaky joint as a kind of a shim?

MaggieL · 04-18-2006, 08:18 PM

There are resin impregnated fiberglass products sold as "pipe bandage" or "Rapp-It" for emergency repairs of leaks. My boss's little girl broke her arm falling off a horse over the weekend...apparently they're using a similar material to make casts these days.

Lacking that I'd be tempted to wrap the thing with duct tape to see if it helped.

Undertoad · 04-18-2006, 08:29 PM

I would be tempted to wrap it over and over and over with duct tape, over and over and over; and then I'd take one of those metal hose clamps, and wrap it around the duct tape, and tighten it down until the tape was squeezing out around the metal clamp.

Then, when the plumber got there, I would give him an extra $20 not to laugh.

tw · 04-18-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas

Yeah but then what do I do to reattach my fingers after I slice them off during the cutting? How long will it take to rebuild the top floor of my house after I accidentally ignite the butane torch that I bought and then decided I didn't need?

You obviously have never done a "home improvement" project with me.

I can't tell from that picture what is leaking. Is it the mechanical joint? Does valve body have a small crack? Is valve stem not fully seated (screwed into) valve body?

You can learn plumbing by making a temporary repair - as usual it will not save money but will attack that ability not to solve problems. Or get the plumber - a cheaper method and one that may (or may not) find a superior solver of future problems.

Duct taping, et al will not work there. Two may curves and angles combined with pressure. Duct tape, et al is an excellent solution to pipes not under pressure - ie sewer pipes. If failure has caused a leak, then the leak will only be getting worse quickly. How many thumbs does a Dutch Boy really have?

zippyt · 04-18-2006, 10:30 PM

That's a bargain.
I agree with Bruce on this one .
Throw in lunch and a cold beer after , and you might have a new friend ( a Highly Usefull friend ) !!

zippyt · 04-18-2006, 10:41 PM

Think about this , you are out of town for a few days , your wife calls and says " Steve !!!!! There's water every were !!!! I think the Hot water heater has died !!!"
Wouldn't it be nice to have a friend that you can call that you KNOW can handel the situation ??

tw · 04-18-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyt

Wouldn't it be nice to have a friend that you can call that you KNOW can handel the situation ??

Isn't that what a wife is for? Don't we work for them? Is it different elsewhere?

wolf · 04-19-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

My boss's little girl broke her arm falling off a horse over the weekend...apparently they're using a similar material to make casts these days.

Maggie! You have a boss! That's wonderful news!

Now, back to the plumbing issue ... are plumbers like other tradesmen who charge extra if the customer tried to fuck with it first themselves? I've lived in apartments most of my life and you just call the maintenance guy who is already being paid by the complex when something screws up.

glatt · 04-19-2006, 08:35 AM

If the pumber will install the new faucet for $100, then you have to go with that option. You would be a fool not to.

No quick fix is going to work in this situation. For putty or tape or anything else like that to work, you have to prep the surface. Clean the pipe. But it's so close to the wall that there isn't enough clearance to do a decent job. Too many angles for any clamp or tape to stick. Epoxy might work, but you need to get down to the bright metal surface all around the joint. Even then, there are no guarantees.

Let the plumber friend do it. How fast is the leak? Can you put a bucket or bread pan or something under it until Thursday?

SteveDallas · 04-19-2006, 09:46 AM

We decided we could do without showers Tuesday night. Wednesday we will either prevail on some friends or take advantage of our YMA mebership. Thursday it'll be fixed.

Flint · 04-19-2006, 02:55 PM

I think you've arrived at the proper conclusion: you need a plumber for 1950s era plumbing. I fit were me, I would have turned off the water, blown out the line, and sweated up a huge glob of solder on there. Of course, this probably wouldn't work very well and would leave a bigger mess for the plumber, which I would eventually need to replace the whole thing, if only becuase it is buried inside all that wall construction and I couldn't get it done properly without messing the wall up or something.

I just bought a house built in 1954 and the master bathroom shower and sink doesn't drain well, okay so I think I need to go get a snake (if I can buy one for the cost of several rentals - I know I'll need it again) - but the other thing is, when the master shower backs up, the other bathroom gets water in the floor - I'm thinking just because the main line needs to be cleared and I need to replace the wax seal under that other toilet?

04-18-2006, 06:06 PM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You've got a torch? Well hells bells, man......let the insurance company remodel the bath. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-18-2006, 06:12 PM	#17
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Mind F**k The plumber I tell you !!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-18-2006, 06:42 PM	#19
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's a bargain. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-18-2006, 08:17 PM	#20
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I'm getting a major Three Stooges vibe off this attempt at plumbing by the clarinet player ... Hey, can't you just jam a 1-1/2 reed in the leaky joint as a kind of a shim? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-18-2006, 08:18 PM	#21
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	There are resin impregnated fiberglass products sold as "pipe bandage" or "Rapp-It" for emergency repairs of leaks. My boss's little girl broke her arm falling off a horse over the weekend...apparently they're using a similar material to make casts these days. Lacking that I'd be tempted to wrap the thing with duct tape to see if it helped. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

04-18-2006, 06:25 PM	#18
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	The plumber (a neighbor whom I'm not super-close friends with, but whose sons play with my kids a lot, so we know each other) quoted me $100 to do the job using the parts I already bought. The bad news: He can't fit us in till Thursday. It's inconvenient but I'm not complaining.

04-18-2006, 08:29 PM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I would be tempted to wrap it over and over and over with duct tape, over and over and over; and then I'd take one of those metal hose clamps, and wrap it around the duct tape, and tighten it down until the tape was squeezing out around the metal clamp. Then, when the plumber got there, I would give him an extra $20 not to laugh.

04-18-2006, 10:30 PM	#24
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	That's a bargain. I agree with Bruce on this one . Throw in lunch and a cold beer after , and you might have a new friend ( a Highly Usefull friend ) !! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-18-2006, 10:41 PM	#25
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Think about this , you are out of town for a few days , your wife calls and says " Steve !!!!! There's water every were !!!! I think the Hot water heater has died !!!" Wouldn't it be nice to have a friend that you can call that you KNOW can handel the situation ?? __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

04-19-2006, 08:35 AM	#28
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	If the pumber will install the new faucet for $100, then you have to go with that option. You would be a fool not to. No quick fix is going to work in this situation. For putty or tape or anything else like that to work, you have to prep the surface. Clean the pipe. But it's so close to the wall that there isn't enough clearance to do a decent job. Too many angles for any clamp or tape to stick. Epoxy might work, but you need to get down to the bright metal surface all around the joint. Even then, there are no guarantees. Let the plumber friend do it. How fast is the leak? Can you put a bucket or bread pan or something under it until Thursday?

04-19-2006, 09:46 AM	#29
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	We decided we could do without showers Tuesday night. Wednesday we will either prevail on some friends or take advantage of our YMA mebership. Thursday it'll be fixed.

04-19-2006, 02:55 PM	#30
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I think you've arrived at the proper conclusion: you need a plumber for 1950s era plumbing. I fit were me, I would have turned off the water, blown out the line, and sweated up a huge glob of solder on there. Of course, this probably wouldn't work very well and would leave a bigger mess for the plumber, which I would eventually need to replace the whole thing, if only becuase it is buried inside all that wall construction and I couldn't get it done properly without messing the wall up or something. I just bought a house built in 1954 and the master bathroom shower and sink doesn't drain well, okay so I think I need to go get a snake (if I can buy one for the cost of several rentals - I know I'll need it again) - but the other thing is, when the master shower backs up, the other bathroom gets water in the floor - I'm thinking just because the main line needs to be cleared and I need to replace the wax seal under that other toilet? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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